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Eeee I'm so excitedddd :DDD I'll post more when this comes up ^_^ I already have some stuff written so hopefully I won't forget at least XD

Also if my location says "watching *a ballet*", I'm probably actually watching it because I'm constantly watching one XD I've been watching Swan Lake pretty much all day with my Jellycats :P 

submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat, age watching, Swan Lake!!! :D
(November 11, 2023 - 6:09 pm)

oops Nyurev is Nyureyev

expanding on the nuance thing, which i'm not sure i explained it very well

For example I’ll be going back to ROH 2016 (XD). I’ve actually watched two other performances partially now (another similar ROH production and one by a different company with what’s so far been very similar choreography). I think the acting in both of them at the beginning leaned much further into like Albrecht trying to win over Giselle and it's much different - with ROH 2016 it feels like they’ve already been meeting, to the point where that’s what i assumed. Also it feels much more both ways, with both Giselle and Albrecht playing “jokes” on each other. Also, I think this Hilarion was my favorite too - he feels much more nuanced. Honestly it’s just a really good production, I don’t know why ROH Stream doesn’t have it. Yasmine Naghdi and Matthew Ball are Yasmine Naghdi and Matthew Ball, i get having the other, but they could have both? That being said i’m not always the biggest fan of their acting. or at least not here. Also tbh I just don’t like them as much as Marianela Nuñez and Vadim Muntagirov here… Yasmine Naghdi is one of the performers at the festival in the 2016 one (like the ensemble cast here is SUPERB. A lot of people who are now principals hadn’t been promoted yet so like Anna Rose O’Sullivan and Mayara Magri are in the ensemble, the bigger festival performers are Marcelino Sambe and Yasmine Naghdi, Alexander Campbell and Yuhui Choe, and Luca Acri and Francesca Hayward so like yeahhhhhh you don’t get better than that - like Luca Acri and Yuhui Choe are first soloists but i mean that’s still a first soloist and Yuhui Choe in particular is absolutely amazing) and she’s superb. I really want to see more productions now so I know what’s more normal… I’m getting some Swan Lakes at the library but they don’t have a big ballet section at all. Probably because ballet CDs tend to be VERY expensive… :( ...and there's probably not as big of a demand :(

Anyway Hilarion is clearly not a very good person - like when Giselle says she doesn’t really like him and likes Albrecht better, he gets mad and grabs her arm angrily - but at the same time he clearly really does like Giselle. Like the ballet opens with him being nice to her mom to gain her mom’s trust, and then the second act opens with him at her grave, and all that sort of stuff. I’m really really not explaining this well though. Also he’s not excused or anything. 

Also now that i think about it more of what i was trying to say is that things are always so absolute and often like forced into certain roles based off of if they’re good or not, and also that darkness is often seen as better and more “artistic” or “realistic” or what not. Interestingly i don’t see this attitude as much in ballet (at least as far as I can tell) or music - people value Bach’s E Major violin concerto as much as the 2nd violin partita, and The Nutcracker as much as Swan Lake. and if they don’t it’s more personal preference.  

OH WAIT but after finally find enough articles about ballet to look at the bibliographies for (it is RIDICULOUSLY hard to find books about ballet) I'm getting some books now! (also one about baroque music history) The Ballet Called Swan Lake and The Ballet Called Giselle by Cyril Beaumont, which should be about history and performance and sound fascinating; The Ballet Lover's Companion by Zoe Anderson; and A History of Baroque Music by George Buelow. yay :D If you can't tell Giselle is officially one of my favorite ballets. there's not really a good selection of classical music or ballet books at the library, unfortunately. i guess there's not usually a demand for hyper-specific analysises of one thing to the point of a whole book or that sort of thing XD at some point I might put in a request for certain books though, but i also just like to have them to read at any time

but to find anything good i mostly had to find a website about Marius Petipa and look at the bibliography, and I still can't find as much about Prokofiev ballets or such (because the website was focused on Petipa) 

also i feel like i often manage to somehow just choose the best version of the ballet to watch first... XD although i do watch bits of them beforehand to choose which one to do, so that's probably why actually i do put thought into that 

submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat
(August 6, 2024 - 8:20 am)

I'm sorry I basically only come in here to rant but I really need some advice or something I think. I don't want to get too deep into I because there's a lot I can't really say on here and also it's just kind of depressing and y'all don't need more of that, but here we go.

So basically, my mum has phases. And for a while it's been pretty ok, but recently she's been a lot more aggressive and basically among other things yells a lot about just about anything I do or do not do. And I can't handle that. Yelling is extremely triggering to me, and she knows that and apparently just doesn't care, but when I get upset she just gets more mad and goes harder on whatever she was on about. I can't say anything, or she just gets madder. If I try to do anything helpful, she only complains that it's not enough and I could've done better. It's so frustrating and then she'll start bringing up my health struggles (physical and mental) and guilting me about how I'm so needy when I really try not to be (I hardly ask for anything, and there's always the option to refuse, but she says I'm guilting her into giving me things/making her do things for me, like giving me a ride from work when it's dark out and miles away from my house; like yes, I could walk, but then she'd complain how I'm not being careful and am causing her distress). And then she'll say stuff like that if I was at all grateful (which she says I'm not for anything) and recognised everything she's sacrificed for me I wouldn't have all these mental health struggles (how is a mood disorder affected by that anyway?) and would stop being such a burden (which, again, is super triggering because I already have really bad issues with feeling like I'm a burden, and she knows this). Plus, I am grateful. I do recognise that she's sacrificed a lot and worked hard. If anything, it makes me feel worse because I feel like I don't deserve it and it's just being wasted. If I get upset at all, she'll say "yeah, great job making me feel bad for telling you the truth," that I "make her walk on eggshells" and am "taking in out on her because she's dislikeable." If I somehow manage to hold myself together and maintain a pokerface she gets mad that I don't care at all about what she's saying. It's just bad if I do, bad if I don't, no matter what and I'm so tired of it. There's no winning. I don't know what to do, but it's exhausting and painful and I just don't know how to keep doing this. If I say anything to anyone, she'll say I'm being dramatic and ungrateful; if anyone supports me she'll say we're "teaming up on her to make her look like the bad guy." What am I supposed to do? 

It's not always like this, too, which makes it hard. My father has always been absent/neglectful, so I depend on her, because children need someone. But she fluctuates at random and it's like we're having a great time and then something invisible to me will change and she's suddenly lashing out and I just don't know what to do. It's also usually better around other people, like she'll be nice when there are eyes on us, but as soon as no one's paying attention, whatever happens is up in the air. I'm just tired, but I am not entirely self sufficient or safe alone so I can't just leave.

submitted by Jaybells, Lost, somewhere
(August 4, 2024 - 10:26 pm)

i don't really have much advice but wow this is uhhh relatable. especially the last part - my mom seems like such a nice person to anyone else but aughhh. do you think you could bring it up to any mental health professionals you know? i have no experience here but maybe they could help more than i could. will try to respond more later 

submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat
(August 5, 2024 - 3:57 pm)

Okay Jaybells have a Fritz as a dragon for now -

fritz_the_dragon.jpg
submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat, ~Giselle~ :D
(August 6, 2024 - 8:25 am)

Awwww! So fierce!

submitted by Jaybells, Lost, somewhere
(August 6, 2024 - 1:07 pm)

okay so uhhh i still don't have anything great but you're definitely not dramatic and ungrateful, and you don't have to be grateful if she's being hurtful. i'm sorry there's more. because of that in particular i really think you should talk to someone irl, like any mental health professionals you trust (i'm assuming you have them because of other things you've said, i could be wrong though). you could ask them not to tell anyone; i think they might have to go by that in some cases. or a friend. sorry that's all i can think of... but no it's not your fault. in the meantime maybe you could try to spend as little time around her as possible? Like staying in your room all day isn't great, i'm actually not able to do that, i've tried, but maybe you could go to a friend's house or something? or escaping into fiction. but someone irl would be able to find a better solution than i can, not knowing everything, and also maybe like invite you to their house or something. (although if just you being somewhere without your mom is an issue or makes her think you're "teaming up on her", then maybe texting?) and maybe when school comes back you'll be able to see your friends more if you have them, or make others if you don't, and they could help. but that's also hard.

also i hate the whole "better around other people" thing so much. Like something that usually would get you in trouble at home except you're with other people outside of home and you get all worked up and then they can make it seem like they're so nice and you got worked up over nothing and aughhhh i hate it so much. (granted, i'm not sure how much consistency there is in what gets me in trouble anyway) and the whole thing of losing no matter what. and then you have to do everything they ask or you're so unreasonable and "how are we supposed to help you if you don't do what we ask?" except what they're asking is useless at best and sometimes worse and yeah idk what i'm writing anymore

also i know not all mental health professionals are good, or even if they are they might not know the whole story and assume stuff, so yeah...  i don't think any of this is helpful but it's something. but you're definitely not unreasonable. also, i would assume the reason you find yelling triggering is because she's made it that way, at least partially.  

also Fritz was pretty little in the dragon picture :P  he's much bigger now

submitted by Bobcat@Jaybells, ~Giselle~
(August 10, 2024 - 1:18 pm)

Thanks for listening. Talking to other people has usually made it worse, especially if they try to intervene, even like cps or counsellours or my dad (when he was around for once) mostly because none of it is permanent. The only way they could've known is because we said something, which she blames us for, and we all get punished. I try going out with friends, too, but my mum gets really mad if I'm away for too long (normally she doesn't care, but when she does notice, it's a problem) and my friends notice that and kind of seem to get tired of me having to leave at inoppurtune times. Idk if they get whats going on, but they're all a lot better off than me so I don't really feel like dragging them into my world of issues. It's better to pretend that nothing's wrong in front of them so they don't want to not be around me when I am able to hang out. Also, they're all going away to college, so it's not even like I'll really see them much anymore. My one younger friend in band who got me is moving away, and my mum really hates me hanging out with them anyway. It took me a long time to make these friends (basically my first real friends in school) so I kinda worry what will happen this upcoming year, but whatever. I've definitely used fantasy and reading and gaming'(videogames and tabletop) as a crutch, though. That's really all that keeps me going lol.

submitted by Jaybells, Lost, somewhere
(August 10, 2024 - 6:38 pm)

yeah that's what i was worried about... and a large reason i haven't told anyone myself. if it even counts as "enough".

honestly though idk what else could help, if it's not adressing what at least seems like a major root of the issue(s). do you think there's any way you could keep in touch with the friend who got you without your mom knowing, or her thinking it was someone else? text or email or social media that she might not moniter? even letting them know the CB exists? idk... 

could you make up a lie to tell your friends, or something halfway true? Like your mom just worries a lot so you have to leave sometimes?

i'm sorry none of this is useful... 

*rant warning* and anyway a lot of the worst bits are during meltdowns and so they could probably frame it as "protecting themselves" or something. or "trying to help", which is what i think they might say to themselves. i've actually qualified for needing to go to the mental hospital like... a lot actually, but nope! idk if it'd help or make things worse, but still. and then afterwards they're all "oh we're just trying to help! It's okay!" and act so confused that i want to get away but they can't leave me alone because "you're not safe" and i have to stay with them until i'm calm. How am i supposed to be calm?! and they don't have to be calm. their reactions are always justified. and it's not like they do anything. they pretend they care but then they just don't. and  also i have... let's call it like, memory fragmentation and no sense of time, so everything's probably more often than i think it is, and there's so much stuff that i know i don't know and also probably stuff that i just don't know, and yeahhh. (only it's actually more complex than that i'm just scared to say) and also that makes it really easy to be fine a lot of the time (actually that's a major part of it) and then it seems like it's all my fault and idkkk but also there's smaller stuff that i usually just forget and i hate everything. it's not even always even a meltdown but just me freaking out. 

also i'm kind of terrified because what happens when i get too old for anything anyway... not that it'd even effect anything... but i don't want to stay here... but the only way is to like live somewhere by yourself and i can't do that... and i'm probably too old for anyone to care anyway, and if i'm not now i will be soon... 

anyway rants aside just keep reading and writing and gaming and everything ig? *optional hugs* i might see if i can write something more encouraging later. sorry this is mostly a rant

submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat
(August 10, 2024 - 9:03 pm)

Yeah, I'm terrified that I'm too old for my own antics too... I absolutely refuse to be sent to a mental hospital now that I'm legally an adult (I've spent enough time in hospitals in general as a kid, and the things I hear about adult mental facilities are just... No. Not happening)

I hate freaking out and being known as a person who has issues like that. Like being that one 6-year-old who has panic attacks for seemingly no reason. It identifies me as someone different and "problematic." I hate that I can't be "normal" and as much as I hate masking because it's a pain and I know I'll never really be "normal enough" for it to count, I still gravitate towards the safety of the mask it like my life depends on it. I also get wanting to leave but being absolutely unable to survive on your own and hating yourself for it (lol I have a whole rant a page or two back about that). Also wanting to just get away from things/people/places that are triggering, but being told I'm not safe enough to be elsewhere. 

I'd say there are agencies(?)/organisations that help people (as children and adults) with disabilities/mental health challenges that interfere with life (my own mother actually works it that field), from having someone as a full-time caregiver to just going around with you for a couple hours of the day, but I'm not sure how viable that is for you or if you'd want to have more dependence on another new adult. I feel like I'm not disabled enough to want to take resources away from those who need it more, and really don't need another person trying to insert themselves into my life. Also there's always the risk of people, even someone who's supposed to look out for you, taking advantage of you (which seems like if is already happening) again. I kinda just want to be alone and read forever. It's easier than dealing with people and life. 

submitted by Jaybells, Lost, somewhere
(August 10, 2024 - 10:44 pm)

ok so the admins took out the middle section where i said a bit about what actually happened and now it doesn't make sense - basically it was "they'll get really upset and "lash out" a lot and such and then be like "calm down! we're trying to help! it's okay!" while they're doing those things

sorry most of this is a rant btw, if it helps at all i think you're a really good writer and artist and i think that the world needs that. 

submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat
(August 10, 2024 - 10:59 pm)

oh and also just by trying to tell anyone you're way braver than me XD

submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat
(August 10, 2024 - 9:04 pm)

HI! Sorry I haven't been responding, I'm at sleepaway camp and while we technically have access to latops (it's a writing camp) I haven't really had time to come on here. I'll try to catch up when I get back this weekend (or maybe before if I have a lot of free time one day and the computer cart is unlocked). Love you guys /p <33333

submitted by Silver Crystal, age Infinity, Milky Way
(August 17, 2024 - 3:28 pm)

okay sorry but i looked further into "ballet"core and like - what the heck?! If they just didn't use the word "ballet" or correlate it to the art form in any way i'd be fine with it. but like. it's literally ridiculous. also it seems exclusively feminine, which really really sucks because ballet is already so stereotyped as exclusively feminine. like actually the history of this is fascinating but i won't get into that. Like I'd absolutely buy something that looked like Albrecht's ROH act one costume or something (it's super cool), but it's all super hyper feminine. that being said they don't even have anything that looks like Giselle's costume. Not even the blue dress she has in a lot of other versions (i don't quite get that dress, but it's still a perfectly nice dress). Not to mention the "ballet shoes" (leopard print!! What?!) but honestly the thing that bothers me the most is that it's just - exclusively feminine, and doesn't even to take anything from actual ballets (except for maybe like "see it's a black or white swan because it's white/black and frilly!" NO IT'S NOT STOP). I actually saw someone in a white frilly blouse and a pink bow tagged as "nutcracker" and i don't even know where they were going with that, Clara's dress might be pink sometimes?? but usually it's blue or blue and white (or at least that's what i've seen the most of), maybe snowflakes but then why the pink bow, etc. but like. absolutely nothing masc. All very frilly, nothing peasanty or such. (and the peasanty costumes in Giselle and Coppelia are my favorites.) and just. it's odd to do like practice themed clothes when you don't actually do ballet. Like it's one thing if you're really interested in it ig (like if you love classical music i'm not going to think it's odd if you're wearing violin stuff), but even for me i think it'd be weird. it just feels strange and dishonest, and also disrespectful to the hours and hours people put in every week. and idk, people can be very weird about ballet so it just doesn't really sit right. but if they so much as acknowledged that male dancers exist i'd be so much happier with it. also i think i already said it but where are the concerto themed clothes idk XD (concerto is a ballet, the set and costumes are so ugly it must be intentional)

like i get this isn't a huge issue but it just bothers me so much. because it's just. not ballet. it's nothing like it. it's like "frills and pink core", but not balletcore. also it's not about the stories at all.  it's not really about ballet, it's about some random person who's probably never seen any actual ballet saying "oh ballet has cool costumes right? lemme get rid of all the cool stuff and wear it and pretend it's related!"

also side note but if "violincore" ever becomes a thing i'm going to burn down the internet 

(that would be hideous though. i can already see it. "concert black" with pink highlights and white socks. unwittingly putting baroque bows on shirts with the names of strange modern music on it. "my parents make me practice 40 hours a day" (i believe 40 hours a day thing is a meme? idk). OH NO i just realized there will be viola jokes *sobs* viola jokes are a whole thing. lemme share an example: 

at one of my music camps, I was doing violin and they didn't know i did viola. someone was wearing a shirt that said something like "violin is for cool people". Someone said something about it; someone else was like "yeah, violin is for cool people. It's not a viola (implying that viola isn't cool)". Another person, who was really cheery and sweet, was like "oh yeah, my brother plays viola so i kind of hate violists." So naturally I said "oh, so you hate me then!" and they were just like "OH NO I'M SORRY" XD one of the people was with orchestra with me and knew i did viola and was just laughing XDDD it's mostly a joke, but yeah. 

okay bye sorry 

submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat, ~Giselle~
(August 24, 2024 - 10:06 pm)

HII I'M HERE FINALLY!! Senior year has started and it's hit me like a bunch of bricks. I'm basically drowning in work and it's barely been a week (which is why I haven't been active here). This year is going to be exhausting I'm already so tired of it (I'm procrastinating work right now for at least three different classes whoops). I'm still working part-time and doing all my same extracurriculars which haven't really started yet, so I'm going to get more busy. Sigh.

How's life been for you? Anything fun? Sorry I've been away for so long :( 

Balletcore is so unsurprising and yet it annoys me anyway. The whole point of aesthetics is to flatten an experience into a couple of cute pictures, and ballet with it's stereotype of being 'girly' and pink (which of course is not true). I think people's obsession with creating new names for increasingly niche aesthetics/looks just feeds into people's want to always fit in with increasingly niche labels. Sometimes aesthetics are fun and nice to search but become way too specific sometimes. 

submitted by Silver Crystal, age Infinity, Milky Way
(September 4, 2024 - 4:29 pm)

I didn't see you had posted for a bit Silver! Btw Jaybells i’ll try to respond more later! I saw things were going better with college and I hope that's continuing.

Haha thanks for responding to the “ballet”core rant XD I just realized that I didn’t see any Sugarplum Fairy stuff though, and for that I’m eternally grateful. Idk, ruining that would somehow invoke a level of sacrilege near-unheard of in this land (except for in politics and the cats vs dogs debate. I’m mostly joking). Besides The Nutcracker being the most famous ballet in normal people land in America (which is where it was revived, idk about in other places), it’s just… idk. Plus the pas de deux in particular is one of my favorites. But the Sugarplum Cavalier always gets forgotten about :((( idk i might honestly like the music and possibly dance for the Cavalier better (well idkkkk i’m not going to guarantee that certainly)

i’d never really thought of aesthetics like that (reducing something into a few pictures) but you’re ultimately right. Also i hadn’t thought about the “wanting to fit in with it” part. I wonder if that’s more the issue than being overly specific? Idk. honestly i’m more likely to see xenogenders based off of an aesthetic or parts of it than actually look at the aesthetic itself, so i might not be the best judge here. But it really does shock me how mainstream these seem to be since i had always associated it with that sort of thing. Also i had never heard of clean girl core or soft girl core.

Hope you’re dealing with being so busy okay. I hate the school system and i never got past 6th grade XD i saw your Random Thoughts post - a 16 page research paper? At the beginning of the year? Oof. make sure you find something you can at least tolerate doing a ton of research on. Also something with a lot of research so you don’t have to start over. Maybe try looking at things you’re passionate about and starting there. Most things can connect somehow to controversy - even jewelry could have elements like class and cultural stuff and gender and all sorts of things. Or book marketing or the way people talk about books on social media or aesthetics? Idk if you’re interested in those or it’s just that i’m talking about them though

I’m officially obsessed with the last act of Giselle. Vadim Muntagirov is pretty much at his absolute best (i know i say that every time i watch something with him but *shrugs* and now i'm like "but Swan Lake" bc I'm watching Swan Lake XD). He actually stumbles a bit once because he’s putting so much into his acting in the “dancing to death” part, which shocked me because he’s usually so jumpy and almost floaty, and it absolutely pays off. (granted, Hilarion also seemed to struggle on the same step/a similar twice so it’s probably also extra ridiculously hard.) Marianela Nuñez is so floaty and ghostlike. I don’t think you can get better than this version tbh - unless if you put in more for them!!! XD in that level of classical music (especially violin), the people who get the most famous are usually the ones who are super technically advanced but not always super into musicality or expression (at least in modern days. People like Hilary Hahn, Rachel Podger, many many modern orchestras, probably more people I’m not thinking of). Probably because everyone’s a prodigy XD My favorite violinists are Shunsuke Sato and Melissa White (who I actually saw live at my local orchestra - she was AMAZING).  

As for what’s been happening i just had a 3-4 hour iv infusion two days in a row for some (possibly multiple) immune thing(s) I don’t understand! Yay? The first day i got 5 separate sticks to try to get the iv to work, and i drank SO MUCH water (which makes it easier). Luckily we didn’t have to try my hands, i hate blood draws and ivs in hands. They found one in my wrist, though. I mostly just mind because i have to sit still for 3-4 hours, which i’m awful at. I have at least 5 bruises now though (some more minor than others). Although 2 of them morphed into one big painful bruise XD

Oh and I’m going to be busy too - if all goes well, this year I’ll have Concert Orchestra (mid-level orchestra), Youth Symphony (high level orchestra) with my JC Bach concerto solo (including a *new and improved* more difficult cadenza!! :DDD), and hopefully an advanced chamber ensemble (but i didn’t officially sign up so it might not work *sobs*). And then i’m hoping that I could get together another chamber ensemble with some kids from orchestra and another orchestra (one of the people’s moms who might work actually plays in our local symphony orchestra, and also she’s really really nice. Her daughter is in Concert Orchestra and so she was asking me about bowings and she actually went up to my mom and said she was impressed, and then she was at a chamber music camp/orchestra program too), and then I have that orchestra program in spring and fall. So the chamber ensemble I want to get together would hopefully be in late fall/early spring/winter because I don’t have orchestra then. I’m really excited. 

Anyway i’m not allowed to be concertmaster again in CO because i was last year and usually the concertmaster would move up to YS :( it’s a new conductor and the first rehearsal was last night and he seemed promising. He had a very different way of doing things - he focused in on smaller sections and got them sounding really good, and trusted that we would all practice after that and we’ll do more next week.

Also i now have a word count goal for the rest of the month. I’m going to try for 9,000 words total, but my actual word count goal for each day is 450. I imagine i’ll have to skip a few hence the total word count goal. I haven’t missed yet! Because i literally started this yesterday! I think I'm probably going to miss today but I've got to at least get a little XD Also i’m going to try to set better monthly and weekly and daily goals for viola and violin. We’ll see how that goes. It’s hard because the issue isn’t that i don’t have the motivation, it’s that i’m always tired and sick. Which means that i want to but can’t. It’s harder when you really really want to. I would be back to practicing 4 hours a day or more if I could *sobs* but I just had a longer orchestra rehearsal today for YS and now i'm exhausted... i feel like my life is increasingly consisting of drinking tea in hopes I can practice later XD  

submitted by Blackfooted Bobcat
(September 8, 2024 - 7:56 pm)