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Continued from the other post: It was getting WAY too long. Now: as I was saaaaying, I'm not trying to bicker, Im trying to help clear up the lie (evolution) that the government is trying to teach us. You know, it used to be illegal for evolution to be taught as fact in public schools. Now, a teacher can be fired for presenting both sides of the argument, for and against.
submitted by Emily L., age 13, WA
(August 13, 2008 - 12:42 pm)
(August 13, 2008 - 12:42 pm)
I shall. 1st of all, Evolution doesn't provide enough time for the changes needed. 2nd, since when are mutations helpful? People have tried to syntetically produce helpful mutations, but have not suceeded. 3rd, the building blocks of life, amino acids, require very different conditions to form, and can only be produced by life already existing. 4th, the missing links scientists are talking about are STILL missing. Australopithecus was removed from the chart of man's ancestry because it was purely an ape. I have already talked about Nebraska man, and another girl talked about Lucy. Piltdown man was a skull made partly from clay, and another missing link, (can't remember which) was thought up from two inches of jawbone. 5th, slices in a human footprint found in dinosaur strata showed compression in the rock below the footprint like you would expect if a person had been running through mud. And I already talked about comets, and the irreliability of radiocarbon dating, and so on. Is that enough? Because there's more, too. No offense please.
(August 14, 2008 - 12:50 pm)
That's not really evidence. That's just a bunch of examples of scientists who made mistakes because of the lack of technology. Evolution provides plenty of time, is 4 billion years not enough? Also if Bible creation was totally true, wouldn't everything revolve around the Earth? I mean if it was created first why would it orbit around the sun? Don't get me wrong I still believe in creation because something had to create the universe and start the process of evolution! I mean the universe can't just be sitting in nothing, can it? When you say that the missing links are still missing and should have been found by now you couldn't be more wrong. Scientists have had really good ways to study evolution for 50-ish years. That isn't a very long time. Also 60+million year old fossils that are big enough to prove anything aren't easy to come by. Radiocarbon dating is pretty acurate. If you ever go to archeaological digs/museums and have a chance to talk to the scientists I think you'll get a picture about this. You also talked about comets. Did you know that comets can be created in nebulas, or just form from collecting ice and dust that is blown of planets? By the way mutations are often helpful. So we humans can't create them in a lab but they happen in nature all the time. The y chromosome in males is a mutation of the x chromosome. Some female frogs can mutate into males to keep the species going. All breeds of dog are a slow mutation from wolves. Also if dinosaurs were around at the same time as humans how come only dinos went extinct? And how come scientists have never found human remains that are older than 15,00-ish years? Please take no offense. I'm not triying to sound rude, but make a point.
(August 14, 2008 - 2:21 pm)
Scientists never found ANY remains more than that old. And, comets are supposed to come from the Oort cloud, but no one has ever seen it. Fossils are because of the flood. That explains why dinosaurs went extinct: the flood narrowed them down to two of each kind, and then, while their numbers were small, most of them were killed off. By humans, (you know the old dragon stories) or by atmospheric changes. By the way, voluntary mutations, (as of frogs) happening within the animal's lifetime are not hereditary. Only mutations they are born with are hereditary, and not all of those! People have raised fruit flies for 1,500 generations, and done all they could to produce mutations. The flies have been born with crumpeled wings, no wings, inability to reproduce, etcetera, but nothing helpful. And, for the fossil dating issue, experts themselves say that heat renders the system useless, but again: look at all the fossils in volcanic ash. And fresh clams were tested by C14 to be 2,000 years old. Do some reading on it. There is a huge controversy on this stuff.
(August 14, 2008 - 6:49 pm)
No there isn't!
(August 15, 2008 - 10:30 am)
Malteses come from wolves? And we never said that the humans haven't been around for about 15,000 years. Read my post that's lower on the page for more info about that.
(August 14, 2008 - 9:23 pm)
0. you ddn't answer the question. I want you to show "proof" for creationism. this just help to prove the hypothesis that there is no proof to creationism.
1. yes it does. 3.5 Billion (That's Billion with a B) years is plenty of time.
1.5 I don't quite get why you say " Evolution doesn't provide enough time for the changes needed. " evolution doesn't supply time.
2. Mututaions aren't good or bad. they're neutral. some can help the animal survive, tho.
2.5 how can you show a mutation in a lab? that's not a mutation.
2.7.5 also, scientist are still learning about the make up of genes.
3. yes, very difficult. so, isn't it lucky that there was just the right mix in the early earth?
3.5 in fact, Amino acids have, in condition near the conditons at the start of the earth, been made in a lab?
4. first there are no missing links. second, not every animal becomes a fossil.
5. this seems bogus.
other: What about comets?
Radiocarbon dating is very accurate.
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(August 14, 2008 - 6:54 pm)
In case you didn't know, the amino acids "created" also contained chemicals that would be harmful to Evolving life.
(August 16, 2008 - 12:45 pm)
Did you know oxygen is also harmful to life? The free radicals that come off of oxygen (which only come in pairs) when our bodies break the molecular bond are what causes us to age (among other things). That's why you have to eat antioxidents. This was in a Muse awhile back.
(August 19, 2008 - 3:29 pm)
Yah, Muse! Are you on the blog? I can't tell when people don't use they're blog names.
(August 20, 2008 - 8:34 pm)
What life? There was no life at that point, just amazing molecular structures begining to form. Try researching Ambiogenesis.
(September 3, 2008 - 7:04 pm)
"Isn't It lucky that there happened to be just the right mix in the Early earth." Let's start with that. Yes, it sure is lucky. It's also lucky that there was just the right atmosphere, and that the earth was the right distance from the Sun, and that it was the right place in the galaxy (yes, that matters too). And it makes less sense that life would spawn in a warm pond than that a computer would spawn in a pile of scrap metal.
(August 17, 2008 - 5:10 pm)
O.k....
(August 18, 2008 - 3:39 pm)
Emily, I didn't read this comment. So, the man for aeiou, here's more proof than in my other post. Plus, just look outside your window. You'll see all the beautiful trees, or at least building that man built. The natural thing obviously had to have a Creator, and the building that were built by man, were built by smart man. The smart man had to be given the knowledge by Someone, and not just a college professor. From what Emily and I have told you, that is all the evidence you need!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe in this with all my heart.
(August 14, 2008 - 9:10 pm)
Thats an OPINION, NOT PROVE. IT'S UNSCIENCTIC, EVEN!
(August 15, 2008 - 4:20 pm)
All the evidence that you could possibly need is in the Bible.
(August 14, 2008 - 8:15 pm)