MERENWE!!!!!!! :D :D :D
Really? I am so glad you like that quote! it's one of my particular favorites. :)
And all Sam's lines are stupendous :)
I have read the Hobbit maybe four times????! I'm pretty sure, at LEAST that many. And I've read the WHOLE Lord of the Rings all together maybe three times, though I have just randomly picked up one of the three volumes and started reading an uncountable number of times.
I have my own copies of tLotR, and they are pretty battered up, as well- the Two Towers is barely holding together. But-- I don't know, maybe it's strange, but I kind of like that-- it makes the books feel used and loved, and somehow it gives me a nice feeling to know that I've made most of the tears and worn spots myself-- it sort of makes me feel like the stories are mine, and brings me closer to them. Well, I think weird things sometimes.
OHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! THAT IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!! :( :( :(
Maybe you could read those missing pages at your library? Or mabe you could tell me the page numbers and I can type them up here for you? Just those pages? I don't know-- would that be okay?
Fun fact: Unlike what many people think, tLotR is not actually a trilogy! Tolkien wanted to have it published in one volume, but the publishers said that no one would buy that big of a book so early in his writing-and-getting-published career, and besides, it was better business sense to publish three separate volumes, anyway.
So The Lord of the Rings is actually One Novel, divided into Three Volumes, which are divided into Six Books. (Two books to a volume). Kind of sounds like the "One Ring to rule them all" rhyme, doesn't it? :)
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submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, The New World (February 16, 2016 - 10:32 pm)
I really like LotR, I have read it about 6 times. I have also watched the movie once as the regular and once as the extended version. I also watched all the extras, some of them are really funny! When they filmed the gates of Mordor scene, they had to find a barren field in New Zealend (which does not have many of those). The only one they could find was being used by the army. Before they could film they had to learn to tell the difference between bombs and rocks, because there where lots of mines everywhere. (no one blew up)
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submitted by Dinah C., age 12, Greenbelt (February 18, 2016 - 1:23 pm)
Six times? That is wonderful!!!!! :)
Really? I did not know that- those actors had to go through an awful lot to make those films.
Falling off horses. Falling off horses and onto the person who fell off first. Narrowly avoiding getting skewered because someone's eye lenses didn't fit. Having to do a scene with only one side of your face exposed to the camera because you got hit in the face with a surfboard. :/
The first film trilogy is fun, but I vastly prefer the novel. (The Lord of the Rings is really one novel)
Thanks so much for participating in this thread!!!!! :D
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submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, The New World (February 19, 2016 - 8:23 pm)
YES!!! I'm sotrry, I somehow missed this thread! I love LotR so much! The way that the story is written is very poetic and I love it. it stinks that Everinne isn't here because she's a huge Tolkienite! I'll be back later to talk more, hopefully.
I'm sooooooooooo glad you're here!!!!!! And I exuberantly agree with your insight on the story being poetical in manner-- It's like living, breathing poetry! :)
Yes! Please come back, and recruit as many as you can-- the more the merrier! When it comes to Tolkien, anyway.
I think I'm going to put together an Entrance Form to fill out, just for fun-- specifying how many Tolkienien books you have read, and whether you are a dork, a nerd, or a geek (Yes, there's a difference) ;)
Namarie, Melon! ;) :D
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submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, The New World (February 23, 2016 - 6:13 pm)
To be honest, here's my total for movies/reading/rating:
THE HOBBIT
The book: read 5 times, rated 8/10
The movie: seen 1 time, rated 4/10
LOTR
The book(s): read 8 times, rated 9.5/10
The movies: see about 15 times, rated 9/10
THE SIMILLARION:
Read 1 time, rated 7/10
HISTORIES, OTHER
Read many times
Okay, so favorite characters in the books or the movies? I love Eowyn and Aragorn in both the movies and the the books. Aragorn to me was always the rock of the story, I guess. Frodo was there, carrying the Ring, but Aragorn really was the backbone and just has it.
S.E., I have a dragon-hoard of things to say! Sometime tomorrow, when I have the time, I shall make valiant attempts to say them in as few words as possible ;)
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submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, The New World (February 23, 2016 - 11:18 pm)
I read the Hobbit for school last year, but I didn't get a ton out of it. I am the kind of person who reads super fast, and then forgets what she read. So, after finding LOTHR in our basement, I read the first chapter of The Fellowship of the Ring out loud, and viola! I am reading the word slower, and actually understanding their meaning!
Currently my favorite LOTHR quote is from the movies, when Pippin says, "So! Where are we going?" after joining the Fellowship.
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submitted by balletandbow, age 12, Moon (February 27, 2016 - 6:54 pm)
Here’s part of the favorite character list I’m writing! :)
Gandalf: Gandalf is one of my very, very, very favorites. I resent the film’s portrayal of his character-- he is NOT simply another Dumbledore. (He came WAAAAAAAY before Dumbledore).
He is-- he is--.......... he’s so awesome (the old-fashioned meaning of awesome) that I can’t find the right words! So I’m going to describe him using the words of Frodo Baggins [written by J.R.R. Tolkien], who does it better than anyone else I know. :)
THAT is the Gandalf I love so well-- especially in the last two verses. Excuse me for a moment… *continues sobbing*
Aragorn: Aragorn is the ideal hero. He is strong-minded, strong enough to withstand Sauron in the Palantir, and truly good. He knows that he is true king, and he strives to reach that shining goal, but he enforces himself on no one.
He is not perfect, however-- he is only a man, after all. But that only makes him all the more valiant and noble. Long live our King! May he reign as long as the thrones of the Valar endure! :)
More coming! :D
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submitted by E, age Anonymous, Rivendell (I wish) ;) (March 1, 2016 - 3:40 pm)
I find discussing Legolas to be a delicate buisness, because so many people have formed their opinions on him, and Elves in general, from the films. So I'm going to say right away that the Legolas I know and love is NOT Orlando Bloom.
Actually, I might start off by describing Elves themselves.
Elves are not just humans with pointy ears (whether they even have those is a debatable point) pretty hair and oh-so-perfect everything. In fact, if you read the Silmarillion, some of those Elves were downright bad.
Elves are better in most things than Men-- stronger, wiser, fairer, more good. What makes Elves "good" people is that goodness is sort of a natural part of Elves. They are not necasarily perfect, but they have almost and in-built tendency towards good. Elves are not really "immortal". Bodily sickness is entirely foreign to them, and they are hardier than Menm but they can die in battle, or be slain by a great grief. What really separates Elves and Men, mortality-wise, is their souls. The souls of Elves are made to last-- they are connected to, and are meant to permanently live in, Arda. So their spirits can be compared to a high-power battery, I suppose. When they are slain for any of the above-listed reasons, their spirits go to Valinor, where they sort of "recharge", are given a new body, and are sent back to Middle-Earth.
The gift that Illuvater (Eru) gave to the Elves was that they would have the greatest joy, and the greatest sorrow. Ever wondered why the Elves sing so much? And why their songs in the Hobbit are rather-well-ridiculous? It's because they can't help themselves. Their joy and delight with the world spills out into everything they do-- in the Hobbit, the Elves' song isn't noble or distinguished because they aren't composing or performing-- they're singing is like laughter. They just do it all the time. (Personally, I very much enjoy even their most light-hearted singing).
And as to the sorrow-- Elves feel it much more strongly than any other peoples, and even their high-power-battery souls can be wearied by it, necessitating a trip to Valinor to "recharge". They also seem to be more sensitive to it's presence in the world.
Elves seem to see "memory" differently from other peoples-- literally. "Elves may see things otherwise. Indeed I have heard that for them memory is more like to the waking world than to a dream."-- Gimli, son of Gloin.
Elves take their comfort from memory. That is part of what makes Lothlorien such a strange, other-wordly place--there, Elvish memory is actually alive. In Rivendell, the Elves' singing seems to bring a taste of this Elvish memory to listeners. Elves thrive on music and poetry--the bearers of memory--more, it seems, then they do even on food and drink.
Well, enough of that! (I could go on for 80 paragraphs!) Let's get on to Legolas himself, or how I see him, at any rate.
Legolas is not the dramatic, flawless iceblock he is in the films. He can be both lighthearted and distraught and thinks much more deeply than the others. He can see the joy, or the sorrow, in everything, much more deeply than his human (or dwarvish) companions. He is the only one, besides the hobbits, who is actually slightly cheeky with Gandalf to his face. "If Gandalf would go before us with a bright flame, he might melt a path for you!" "Farewell! I go to find the Sun!" Cracks me up every time. :D
He has also lived (we think, though no one's certain) for about 2,000 years, so he's certainly not a petulant teen who throws petty tantrums, like in the Hobbit films.
Legolas, and Elves as a people, think very differently than men do-- they are a completely different way of being people. Sometimes I can't help but smile and shake my head when people have crushes on him-- I wonder how they'd feel if they were actually to meet him? They would probably be awed, embarassed and a little frightened.
So, all in all, Legolas is one of my favorite characters because of his beautiful and fascinating outlook on the world, his originality as a character, and because he is just impossibly cool. :)
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submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, Rivendell (I wish) ;) (March 2, 2016 - 5:15 pm)
MERENWE!!!!!!! :D :D :D
Really? I am so glad you like that quote! it's one of my particular favorites. :)
And all Sam's lines are stupendous :)
I have read the Hobbit maybe four times????! I'm pretty sure, at LEAST that many. And I've read the WHOLE Lord of the Rings all together maybe three times, though I have just randomly picked up one of the three volumes and started reading an uncountable number of times.
I have my own copies of tLotR, and they are pretty battered up, as well- the Two Towers is barely holding together. But-- I don't know, maybe it's strange, but I kind of like that-- it makes the books feel used and loved, and somehow it gives me a nice feeling to know that I've made most of the tears and worn spots myself-- it sort of makes me feel like the stories are mine, and brings me closer to them. Well, I think weird things sometimes.
OHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! THAT IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!! :( :( :(
Maybe you could read those missing pages at your library? Or mabe you could tell me the page numbers and I can type them up here for you? Just those pages? I don't know-- would that be okay?
Fun fact: Unlike what many people think, tLotR is not actually a trilogy! Tolkien wanted to have it published in one volume, but the publishers said that no one would buy that big of a book so early in his writing-and-getting-published career, and besides, it was better business sense to publish three separate volumes, anyway.
So The Lord of the Rings is actually One Novel, divided into Three Volumes, which are divided into Six Books. (Two books to a volume). Kind of sounds like the "One Ring to rule them all" rhyme, doesn't it? :)
(February 16, 2016 - 10:32 pm)
I really like LotR, I have read it about 6 times. I have also watched the movie once as the regular and once as the extended version. I also watched all the extras, some of them are really funny!
When they filmed the gates of Mordor scene, they had to find a barren field in New Zealend (which does not have many of those). The only one they could find was being used by the army. Before they could film they had to learn to tell the difference between bombs and rocks, because there where lots of mines everywhere. (no one blew up)
(February 18, 2016 - 1:23 pm)
Hi Dinah!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
Six times? That is wonderful!!!!! :)
Really? I did not know that- those actors had to go through an awful lot to make those films.
Falling off horses. Falling off horses and onto the person who fell off first. Narrowly avoiding getting skewered because someone's eye lenses didn't fit. Having to do a scene with only one side of your face exposed to the camera because you got hit in the face with a surfboard. :/
The first film trilogy is fun, but I vastly prefer the novel. (The Lord of the Rings is really one novel)
Thanks so much for participating in this thread!!!!! :D
(February 19, 2016 - 8:23 pm)
YES!!! I'm sotrry, I somehow missed this thread! I love LotR so much! The way that the story is written is very poetic and I love it. it stinks that Everinne isn't here because she's a huge Tolkienite! I'll be back later to talk more, hopefully.
(February 23, 2016 - 7:06 am)
Greetings, S.E.!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D
I'm sooooooooooo glad you're here!!!!!! And I exuberantly agree with your insight on the story being poetical in manner-- It's like living, breathing poetry! :)
Yes! Please come back, and recruit as many as you can-- the more the merrier! When it comes to Tolkien, anyway.
I think I'm going to put together an Entrance Form to fill out, just for fun-- specifying how many Tolkienien books you have read, and whether you are a dork, a nerd, or a geek (Yes, there's a difference) ;)
Namarie, Melon! ;) :D
(February 23, 2016 - 6:13 pm)
Yay!! Tolkien!!
To be honest, here's my total for movies/reading/rating:
THE HOBBIT
The book: read 5 times, rated 8/10
The movie: seen 1 time, rated 4/10
LOTR
The book(s): read 8 times, rated 9.5/10
The movies: see about 15 times, rated 9/10
THE SIMILLARION:
Read 1 time, rated 7/10
HISTORIES, OTHER
Read many times
Okay, so favorite characters in the books or the movies? I love Eowyn and Aragorn in both the movies and the the books. Aragorn to me was always the rock of the story, I guess. Frodo was there, carrying the Ring, but Aragorn really was the backbone and just has it.
Be back!
(February 23, 2016 - 9:53 pm)
S.E., I have a dragon-hoard of things to say! Sometime tomorrow, when I have the time, I shall make valiant attempts to say them in as few words as possible ;)
(February 23, 2016 - 11:18 pm)
I HAVE STARTED LOTHR!!!!
I read the Hobbit for school last year, but I didn't get a ton out of it. I am the kind of person who reads super fast, and then forgets what she read. So, after finding LOTHR in our basement, I read the first chapter of The Fellowship of the Ring out loud, and viola! I am reading the word slower, and actually understanding their meaning!
Currently my favorite LOTHR quote is from the movies, when Pippin says, "So! Where are we going?" after joining the Fellowship.
(February 27, 2016 - 6:54 pm)
Welcome to the Fellowship, Balletandbow!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
Here's how many of us there are at the moment, judgig from the number of commentors on this thread:
Esthelle
Merenwe
Cho Chang (The first one)
Dinah C.
S.E.
Balletandbow
Please keep atending, everyone! I will do my utmost to keep this Fellowship alive! ;)
(February 27, 2016 - 10:57 pm)
I LOVE LOTR SO MUCH. I JUST REWATCHED THE MOVIES. Who is everyone's favorite Tolkien character (s)?
(February 28, 2016 - 8:07 am)
Here’s part of the favorite character list I’m writing! :)
Gandalf: Gandalf is one of my very, very, very favorites. I resent the film’s portrayal of his character-- he is NOT simply another Dumbledore. (He came WAAAAAAAY before Dumbledore).
He is-- he is--.......... he’s so awesome (the old-fashioned meaning of awesome) that I can’t find the right words! So I’m going to describe him using the words of Frodo Baggins [written by J.R.R. Tolkien], who does it better than anyone else I know. :)
When evening in the Shire was grey
his footsteps on the Hill were heard;
before the dawn he went away
on journey long without a word.
From Wilderland to Western shore,
from northern waste to southern hill,
through dragon-lair and hidden door
and darkling woods he walked at will.
With Dwarf and Hobbit, Elves and Men,
with mortal and immortal folk,
with bird on bough and beast in den,
in their own secret tongues he spoke.
A deadly sword, a healing hand,
a back that bent beneath its load;
a trumpet-voice, a burning brand,
a weary pilgrim on the road.
A lord of wisdom throned he sat,
swift in anger, quick to laugh;
an old man in a battered hat
who leaned upon a thorny staff.
.
*Sighs deeply* That--is-- *sob* --beautiful! *sniff*
THAT is the Gandalf I love so well-- especially in the last two verses. Excuse me for a moment… *continues sobbing*
Aragorn: Aragorn is the ideal hero. He is strong-minded, strong enough to withstand Sauron in the Palantir, and truly good. He knows that he is true king, and he strives to reach that shining goal, but he enforces himself on no one.
He is not perfect, however-- he is only a man, after all. But that only makes him all the more valiant and noble. Long live our King! May he reign as long as the thrones of the Valar endure! :)
More coming! :D
(March 1, 2016 - 3:40 pm)
I love both Gandalf and Sam, but all of the characters are so masterfully created. Just discovered this. LoTR is my fav!
(March 5, 2016 - 12:33 pm)
LEGOLAS!!!!
Though Sam is creeping up my list. We both like Elves waaaaaay too much.
(March 1, 2016 - 4:33 pm)
I agree, Balletandbow!
I find discussing Legolas to be a delicate buisness, because so many people have formed their opinions on him, and Elves in general, from the films. So I'm going to say right away that the Legolas I know and love is NOT Orlando Bloom.
Actually, I might start off by describing Elves themselves.
Elves are not just humans with pointy ears (whether they even have those is a debatable point) pretty hair and oh-so-perfect everything. In fact, if you read the Silmarillion, some of those Elves were downright bad.
Elves are better in most things than Men-- stronger, wiser, fairer, more good. What makes Elves "good" people is that goodness is sort of a natural part of Elves. They are not necasarily perfect, but they have almost and in-built tendency towards good. Elves are not really "immortal". Bodily sickness is entirely foreign to them, and they are hardier than Menm but they can die in battle, or be slain by a great grief. What really separates Elves and Men, mortality-wise, is their souls. The souls of Elves are made to last-- they are connected to, and are meant to permanently live in, Arda. So their spirits can be compared to a high-power battery, I suppose. When they are slain for any of the above-listed reasons, their spirits go to Valinor, where they sort of "recharge", are given a new body, and are sent back to Middle-Earth.
The gift that Illuvater (Eru) gave to the Elves was that they would have the greatest joy, and the greatest sorrow. Ever wondered why the Elves sing so much? And why their songs in the Hobbit are rather-well-ridiculous? It's because they can't help themselves. Their joy and delight with the world spills out into everything they do-- in the Hobbit, the Elves' song isn't noble or distinguished because they aren't composing or performing-- they're singing is like laughter. They just do it all the time. (Personally, I very much enjoy even their most light-hearted singing).
And as to the sorrow-- Elves feel it much more strongly than any other peoples, and even their high-power-battery souls can be wearied by it, necessitating a trip to Valinor to "recharge". They also seem to be more sensitive to it's presence in the world.
Elves seem to see "memory" differently from other peoples-- literally. "Elves may see things otherwise. Indeed I have heard that for them memory is more like to the waking world than to a dream."-- Gimli, son of Gloin.
Elves take their comfort from memory. That is part of what makes Lothlorien such a strange, other-wordly place--there, Elvish memory is actually alive. In Rivendell, the Elves' singing seems to bring a taste of this Elvish memory to listeners. Elves thrive on music and poetry--the bearers of memory--more, it seems, then they do even on food and drink.
Well, enough of that! (I could go on for 80 paragraphs!) Let's get on to Legolas himself, or how I see him, at any rate.
Legolas is not the dramatic, flawless iceblock he is in the films. He can be both lighthearted and distraught and thinks much more deeply than the others. He can see the joy, or the sorrow, in everything, much more deeply than his human (or dwarvish) companions. He is the only one, besides the hobbits, who is actually slightly cheeky with Gandalf to his face. "If Gandalf would go before us with a bright flame, he might melt a path for you!" "Farewell! I go to find the Sun!" Cracks me up every time. :D
He has also lived (we think, though no one's certain) for about 2,000 years, so he's certainly not a petulant teen who throws petty tantrums, like in the Hobbit films.
Legolas, and Elves as a people, think very differently than men do-- they are a completely different way of being people. Sometimes I can't help but smile and shake my head when people have crushes on him-- I wonder how they'd feel if they were actually to meet him? They would probably be awed, embarassed and a little frightened.
So, all in all, Legolas is one of my favorite characters because of his beautiful and fascinating outlook on the world, his originality as a character, and because he is just impossibly cool. :)
(March 2, 2016 - 5:15 pm)
Eowyn and Aragorn are my 2 faves.
(March 5, 2016 - 6:48 am)