Character-writing Thread!
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Character-writing Thread!
Character-writing Thread!
The art of character-writing, the creation of whole new people who live, breathe, think and move outside the pages and within the minds of readers, is, to my mind, one of the most vital components of a potent story.
This is a place for us to discuss, present, and refine our characters. You can ask for character-building help, get opinions on your developing or completed characters (if characters are ever completed) or simply show them off. I hope this thread is of benefit. Let's have some literary fun!
submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, Rivendell (I wish) ;)
(July 23, 2016 - 4:59 pm)
(July 23, 2016 - 4:59 pm)
OO! I'd totally read a book about the first type. HEY! It's like Darkstalker! Kinda.
Also, SD, to answer your question, I try to put myself in the charrie's shoes. However, this can get difficult in a heated argument, when you're jumping back and forth between views ... Yea, totally not helping here, I know.
(July 26, 2016 - 4:35 pm)
The largest amout of homemade characters I've written about is around six. Sadly, the thing that helps me is falling back on stereotypes (btw thanks Ashlee!).
I suggest grouping your characters into their main personalities, then doing cross-overs. You can have one person be dark-but-funny or dark-but-kind or nerdy-but-mature or awkward-but-atheltic . . . if you think about it there are endless possibilites. Another fallback of mine is putting lots of dialogue. That's what you get when your writing style is like describing a movie and you end up putting a bunch of cheesy, (probably not) witty comebacks :p
As for dark heroes, that sounds like a really good idea. Here's what I think: Have the protaganist have a deep story about how they became dark (people love that mushy story and makes them feel for the character). Even better, make the hero tell it to a new, close friend.
Have the hero be misunderstood. Make 'em feel for one thing in particular.
I agree with Ashlee
(July 27, 2016 - 12:26 am)
Okeyday, I need to ask you guys something. Would you read about this charrie (see below) as the MC?
Name: Ruineth Sharia (last name may get changed up due to new world-building)
Age: 75. In human. But is actually 15 in elf.
Race: Elf, but believes she is human, due to a spell.
Job: Works as a Threadress, but basically loses her job in the beginning? It's confusing.
Appearance: Slightly longer than shoulder length wavy reddish-brown hair, pale skin, dark forest green eyes, is tall and willowy in build, and slight sprinkling of freckles across the nose.
Personality: Very fierce, sarcastic, and moody. But she has an unimaginable amount depth(?) of being able to care for the few (Like, four people) she loves.
Reading this, I know that this charrie sheet cannot do her justice. But I can still try.
(July 27, 2016 - 9:34 am)
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(July 29, 2016 - 11:07 am)
I didn't think so many people would appreciate this thread! Thank you all! :)
There are too many comments for me to address them all individually just now, but I'm going to try to do a sort of blanket answer and see if that accomplishes anything. My advice might not be so good, but I'm going to attempt it, regardless:
The depth and intricacy of your characters largely depends on your writing style, the type of story you're creating, the amount of characters in that story, and the overall mood. So it will sort of vary from person to person. But, whatever kind of story you're writing, it is important to get to know your characters very, very well.
How you go about doing this will likely also vary. What I like to do is to take personality traits from myself, and the people around me. Mix and match. Is there a quality about someone you know that you just can't stand? Use it. It's good practice to incorporate real personalities into your story-- and you get a chance to look at that attribute you hate in another person from a different angle or new light, which is beneficial for real-life relationships.
Try to hid a little piece of yourself in every character. It helps you to get to know them, and allows you to sympathize with them more deeply. This can also make you more invested in them.
By 'yourself' I don't mean just your basic personality. All those traits and attributes you wish you had-- toss 'em in the character-mixing pot and see what happens. All those traits and attributes that you're glad you don't-- in they go. All those traits and attributes that you prefer to tell yourself you don't have-- them too. Because chances are, you feel for these assorted characteristics fairly deeply. Even if you haven't actually experienced that personality you wish you had-- you still care about it enough to understand it to some extent, and it's rather fun to personify that coveted or appreciated trait in your fictional creation and watch it there.
Even if you can't slide yourself into a specific character, there's high chances that you know someone who fits him/her like a glove. So I suppose my point here is that real people are a good place to start when it comes to making your characters come to life.
It's fine, even desirable, to give your character a few contradictory atributes. It makes them interesting. But it's important that these attributes should still make some sort of sense. For instance-- the judge in Agatha Chrisitie's 'And Then There Were None.' An excellent example of a character with contradictory yet humanly plausible traits. But if the character is too incongruous, he or she is no longer realisitic and flattens the overall story.
Alright, I'm going to try a few individual advice-givings after all. Here goes:
BumbleBuddy-- Democh's conflicting traits, the fact that he is reckless and thoughtless but still a cowardly character, is actually quite plausible. Someone can be brash when it comes to social situations while still lacking the courage and endurance to face his own real fears.
Cho: I really like Ruineth-- I think she has lots of potential! However, I would say that she closely resemles pretty nearly every other elf character out there just now. Like you said, a basic summing-up hardly does a character justice, and she's great now, but I think that she could be so much more.
The Novelist: When you say that you want your characters to be stereotypical, I think I can see a bit of what you're getting at. That completely ordinary people are actually capable of being completely extraordinary? Or that they already are? Regardless-- this sounds like an excellent story, but remember that 'ordinary' people aren't necessarily all that ordinary. You can make them pretty stereotypical at first, but, in order to get your readers' attention, you might sort of drop hints or promises at the beginning that say that your characters aren't going to be so stereotypical for long. And then perhaps you could begin to slowly unpack them-- stay true to their original 'flat' attributes, but sort of deepen them, and show that those drab characteristics might be mixed from a vast variety of colors. It would sort of be addressing the question 'What makes a person so ordinary-- and is that person really so very ordinary?' I don't know-- but I am excited for this story to be completed, anyhow. :)
Scylla: I think Sheena is fine for the type of story you're writing, but I agree that a little embellishment seldom hurts. It's usually a god idea to completely develop your characters-- by which I mean to create your character so entirely that you know an infinite amount of things about them that will never get any mention in the actual book, but allow you to know them better. Besides-- many of those little details will likely come very much in handy
While I'm thinking about it, I have a few comments to make about fantasy peoples. These are entirely my own opinions and may or may not be of any use or contain any reality:
The world is full of fantasy stories about elves and the like, who, despite their claimed race, are really just humans with pointy ears or special powers or slightly strange emotions. But has anyone ever really stopped to think what being an elf would actually be like? You're not human. You're a completely different way of being alive. Your mind and emotions function on a whole different level. You might even have different values. Imagine for a moment how that would feel. If you were turned into an elf this very moment, you wouldn't simply become dazzlingly beautiful with funny ears. It would be almost as complete a change as though you had been transfigured into a zebra.
This is probably enough for now. Sorry Admins! :/
(July 30, 2016 - 9:23 pm)
Thanks! Very helpful. ;)
And it's funny, what you said about hiding a bit of yourself in a charrie. Because I do it every time!
(August 8, 2016 - 2:30 pm)
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!!!
(August 6, 2016 - 4:26 pm)
Thanks Toppelgänger ;D
(August 6, 2016 - 7:38 pm)
You're welcome. Top!
Toppy says owzf. What's hurting you, Toppy?
(August 6, 2016 - 8:03 pm)
Ohhh, my personal favorite: make your villain right, and the hero wrong. I love it when you are following a ‘hero’ who is wrong, but more ethical. Like destroying part of the world’s population to solve overpopulation, or setting off an ice age to stop global warming. The hero is trying to stop the solution to a problem.
(August 7, 2016 - 9:54 am)
Here are some things that help me with character development. I thought I'd share.
Now, I know most of you don't jump from idea to idea as quickly as I do, or procrastinate as much. But, when I have free time, I think about my character reacting to everyday situations, or doing something normal like baking a cake or playing basketball. I think it helps me to see them as just people, instead of a perfect stereotypical hero/heroine. Also, basing your character after a part of you or someone that you know will make it so much easier to write from their POV. Assigning them a face helps me to describe them as well.
(August 7, 2016 - 6:06 pm)
I'm glad you found that helpful, Cho! :)
That is excellent advice, Bluebird! I find that, once you know your character well enough, you will often know automatically what they would do in any situation-- which makes the writing of their stories much easier.
(August 13, 2016 - 9:09 pm)
Is anyone else having Character-writing troubles?
(August 20, 2016 - 2:17 pm)
Or just want to talk about their characters?
(August 20, 2016 - 2:18 pm)
I'm considering starting up a Role-play-like thread in which everyone writes as an original character, and then everyone switches characters half-way through. I believe this would provide good opportunity for delving into other people's characters, and also for appreciating personal writing-style, and learning to decipher and impersonate the style of others. You would also have to present your character clearly, so that other people could represent it right.
Would anyone be interested?
(August 20, 2016 - 3:27 pm)