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Boy am I glad the Chatterbox is finally open! I have been checking every day since the beginning of June. Which is why I am wondering, if the Chatterbox only opened today, why on earth are there multiple posts from June 18th and 19th? Anyway, about the Creation/Evolution debate, I am a creationist. But unlike Piccadilly M. and Megan C. and Victoria and Mary A., from the Jan. 05 and Feb. 06 and December 05 issues, I believe that God created the world in six literal days. There is absolutely no need to compromise the Genesis record with Evolutionary rubbish. It doesn't work. Apple trees were created before jellyfish, birds were created before dinosaurs, and all plants were created before the sun! It must have been six literal days or the plants would never have survived. To Telly K. (September 2006): I want to know exactly what studies have shown that the earth is 4.6 billion years old because I'll bet they are false. Secondly, the only reason people think the fossil record is that old is because scientists who use unreliable testing methods say so. And the time line is completely made up and not at all based on fossil depth. It is people arranging the fossils into a convenient order. Also, the third point in her letter is fairly weak. If you believe in creation, then it is easy to see that the moth was created with an 11 inch proboscis to be able to feed out of the particular flower. Lastly, viruses were created to mutate and so survive.
submitted by Emily L., age 13, Washington
(July 29, 2008 - 6:30 pm)
(July 29, 2008 - 6:30 pm)
i am totally w/ wendy
(August 18, 2008 - 3:40 pm)
Just so every one knows, I am a Christian and my dads a Minister. FYI.
(August 7, 2008 - 8:12 pm)
Really, how can anyone believe in God and the Bible, yet endorse evolution? Please don't think I'm bashing/questioning your faith, but the Bible states "So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the waters teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind." (Genesis 1:21.) It doesn't say that God created a few birds and made or let them evolve into different birds, or that God made a bunch of living and moving things in the water, and they evolved into other living things. It says God created EVERY living and moving thing and EVERY winged bird, right then and there. (I hope I've made my point without seeming offensive or disrespectful; as you can see, this is something I'm zealous about.) And TMFA, in answer to your question earlier about talking snakes, I don't believe snakes can talk. What I do believe is that the rebel angel God kicked outta heaven, Lucifer, was/or inhabited that snake. Lucifer wants to trip God's creation (us) up every step of the way, and looking at our society today, I'd say he's doing a pretty good job of it. I could write for hours on this, but I imagine some of you have already fallen asleep at the computer. =)
(August 9, 2008 - 2:37 pm)
This is so cool! I'm really glad this got going it's so neat to read everyones' point of views and think about them seriously, which I do. I'm happy somebody brought up the universe part too (versus just the Earth and creationism). I have an awesome idea about it (or should I say belief...) Anyway the Big Bang theory says that all the matter of the universe was in a ball like ping-pong sized (I'm not really sure about the size, but it was pretty small). How can that be? Well in every atom most of the it's size is just space, right? What if you took that space away? How can this happen? This is my theory: if matter reaches absolute zero it stops moving, which means it's taking up less space. If at the beginning of the universe, wherever the ping-pong ball of matter is, it was absolute zero then couldn't all that matter which was reduced in size fit into that teeny ball? And then if the space where the universe was heated up a fraction of a degree BANG! all the atoms would start moving and banging into each other causing friction and fusion as they rapidly expanded and heated up creating the universe. But don't get me I still believe in God. Becuase of this: what caused the temperature change or Big Bang? and where was the matter? Also I wonder... people say the universe is expanding (which it probably is) but what is it expanding into? Where is the universe? Just hanging in nothing? That is why I believe in God. Something had to create all this.
Plus Hanna I'm really glad you quoted the Bible! (and no offense taken!) Is there anyone of other religions besides Christianity (or atheism/agnostic) out there that could share their point of view on these subjects? It would be neat to learn about other religions and their stories of creation!
(August 9, 2008 - 10:48 pm)
OK I have a bit more to say. One is that you should check out the National Geographic article on the "God Particle". It's very cool and talks about the search for the smallest particle/proof of antimatter. Plus I think the Earth is 4 billion-ish years old and the universe is even older than that (based on scientific evidence). And everything said about the Big Bang is a theory. You can't ask scientists to prove something that is very difficult to study (it's virtually impossible to prove-you'd have to go back in time). It would be like me asking you to prove that God exists using something other the Bible (which I'm not, PLEASE don't take offense it's only an example and I'm not trying to force my views on anyone!).
PS-Is anyone else amazed by how different people feel about God? I mean it's amazing how different faith in the same God can be.
(August 9, 2008 - 11:02 pm)
There is lots of evidence of creation at least using something other than the bible. For instance: we aren't getting any new comets, and the ones we have are shrinking so fast that they couldn't have been created that long ago. They would have to have been HUGE! Also, to those who say fossils are proof of Evolution, they aren't. When a mine caved in, a miner's hat was fossilized. When a bomb shelter caved in, a ham was fossilized. When a power line went down, it electrocuted some tree roots, and they were fossilized. By radiocarbon dating, they were 10,000 years old. When you put heat into the proccess, radiometric dating is thrown way off. And think of all the fossils buried in volcanic ash! By the way, this list is getting really, REALLY long, so can we start a new one?
(August 12, 2008 - 2:17 pm)
Fallen asleep? NO! Clap clap clap clap clap.
(August 10, 2008 - 1:58 pm)
Well, you guys, why don't you stop bickering and let me slip a word in edgewise. I am a Christian, through and through. God created the Earth in 6 days. It says very clearly There was evening and there was morning the [insert number here] day. Note, it says eveNING, morNING not eveNINGS morNINGS. As a matter of fact, they have actually found dinosaur footprints on the same archaeological level as human footprints (which means the makers of the prints were around at the same timeframe) but the scientists are trying to keep it all hush-hush, along with the fact that Neanderthal skeletons had artificially bent spines to make them look prehistoric and Lucy is in fact all ape, not an ounce of human in her. I also believe in adaptation. That is not evolution. It's the fact that species will change, possibly into new species, depending on the environment, and survival of the fittest rules. Birds with harder beaks will survive better in a land of nuts than birds with thin, flimsy hummingbird beaks, you get the picture. But birds cannot become fish, amphibians cannot mutate into dogs, etc. Birds stay birds, fish stay fish, frogs frogs. That is how Noah fit all the animals on his ark. back then, there were fewer species, but they were all the same in a way. Get my point? After that, animals branched out. Perhaps back then, there were only 30 types of birds rather than the zillions we have now. Evolutionists are just flapping their arms and saying they're flying. For some reason, people actually believe them.
(August 10, 2008 - 5:31 pm)
Ah! now were getting some where!
First the Dino-Human Tracks are very well know. there are two reson this could have happened:
1) it's a Hoax! <Most believed
2) the human tracks shifted down over the ages.
I've never herd about the neanderthal thing.
Lucy LOOKS human. I've seen a model.
OF COuRSE Birds don't turn in to fish, or Amphibans into dogs. that's not evolution!
Fish>Amphibanins>Reptiles>Mammals and Birds
(August 11, 2008 - 8:13 am)
TMFA, in your comment about Dino-Human tracks, you failed to mention that there is another reason they could have happened. (You probably already know what I'm going to say.) What if....God created dinosaurs and humans on the same day, like the Bible says?? Look it up, it's all in Genesis 1: 24-31. Also, a creature called the behemoth is mentioned in the Bible. Any idea what that might be? Yes, in my opinion, the behemoth mentioned in God's Word is a dinosaur. I'm not sure where it is in the Bible though, I'll have to look it up and get back to you...
(August 11, 2008 - 12:52 pm)
Did you know that the ancient Greeks also had behemoths? These people were around long before any Christians. Most scientists think that the Greeks and other ancient people saw the skeletons of dinosaurs and believed that they were dragons or other mythical creatures. Also if dinosaurs were created at the same time as humans, why are they extinct? Wouldn't there be cave paintings of dinosaurs? Humans probably would have hunted and scientists would have found evidence of dinosaurs being cooked, skinned etc!
(August 14, 2008 - 8:53 am)
Whoa! reptiles into Mammals is a long jump!
(August 11, 2008 - 1:41 pm)
Not really. Read "A Cartoon History of the Universe Volume One" by Larry Gonick.
(August 11, 2008 - 6:27 pm)
I agree with you about Lucy at least. I heard about that one. And also: did anybody know that Nebraska man, although the skull, hair, and posture are artistically complete, was derived from a single tooth? And a number of years later, the tooth was proven to be from an extinct pig?
(August 11, 2008 - 1:55 pm)
Lucy was a human!!! She was a very early human but still not an ape. She (and her people) walked upright, hunted in a group, and used tools. These skills on their own aren't incredible (some monkeys will walk upright for short periods of time, wolves hunt in groups, and apes use tools) but the fact they did all of these makes them extraordinary! Also as science improves some older theories will be proven false. And Neanderthals weren't part of our species, they were a completely different species of human. And if you are someone who believes that talking makes you human then you should now that skeletons of Homo Sapiens (early form of us) and skeletons of Neanderthals both have larynx. The larynx is the bone that allows us to speak. Shannon what you describe as adaption is really just evolution. Evolution says that species will change into different species in order to cope with their environment. Evolution is just adaption over a LONG period of time.
Bonus: If you are ever in Washington DC go to the Natural History Museum. There you can see footprints made by early humans 10,000 years ago. They look just like mine!
(August 13, 2008 - 3:01 pm)