AE Clarification
Chatterbox: Down to Earth
AE Clarification
AE Clarification
Hi, so, stuff is happening and I think something really wasn't clear. It's been brought to my attention that there are some different ideas about what AEs are, and I wanted to talk about that. Let's begin.
Both of my AEs are based off of different aspects of myself. I did this because of a description I saw once of AEs being characters created to show different sides of their CBer. I took it to mean that if a CBer wanted to express something like insanity or shyness which didn't fit with the way they usually acted, they would make an AE to embody themselves when that aspect was showing.
I thought this was a great idea. I often talked to myself as though I were multiple people, and so I decided to take one of the louder voices, try to pin most of it down, and shape it into an AE. The result was Nymph, a highly volatile person who was snarky and scared me and had this feeling that I always associate with forests and myself when I was several years younger, and whose shape altered with every tiny change in her mood without her even trying. It actually felt like she made herself; she simply burst in one day and demanded I make her a thread. I love her and think of her as an exaggerated and rather highly altered hidden face of me.
A while after Nymph's arrival, I noticed that another of the voices in my head was saying things that I wanted other people to hear, but it wasn't quite me and it wasn't quite Nymph. I debated with myself for a long time over what to do about this, and there slowly began to emerge someone new. I named this part of myself Sea Glass and observed xyr for a while before introducing her as an AE. Xe was an amplified manifestation of my loneliness and sorrow and contemplative patience, my listening ear and social awkwardness/anxiety, all of which felt as if it wouldn't fit into a girl or a boy. There's a lot to xyr that distinguishes us, but xe is still partly me when I'm feeling drifty.
At the time, I thought this was a fairly normal thing to do--perhaps no one had ever done it quite the way I had, but it helped give them depth and color, so why not? However, I'm not sure this is true anymore. I think it might actually be more common to just come up with a set of traits out of owhere, a character unrelated to their CBer at all, existing simply to fill a role, provide a different tone of voice or fun interactions, drawing details from the things they do; beings who are changeable and disposable and not at all real. But I'm not sure about this, so I want to hear it from you.
How did your AEs come into being, and where do they fall on the scale between easily manipulable and meaningless creations to existent even without the CB?
(August 3, 2018 - 1:13 am)
Huh. Cool!
(August 7, 2018 - 9:17 pm)
Eee! I've always wanted an excuse to just talk about Thirty!
...Self-centeredness aside, I really love hearing about other people's AEs and why they were made/sprang into existence. It's interesting, awesome, and also a little puzzling. My own story of how Narrator Thirty-Three was made begins differently than others.
I was at a voice lesson, preparing to audition for Into The Woods Jr. My voice...teacher person? was helping me with the audition. She was talking about the narrator when she mentioned a piece of advice she had given the narrator of a Joseph she had directed.
It was that the narrator is every character.
Months later, I remembered that advice (no, I don't remember why) while I was browsing the CB. I had been seeing so many AE threads, and it just clicked--that was my AE.
Thirty has become the part of me that secretly (emphasis on secretly) imitates Rapunzel when she's by herself, and lives for a story. She is immature and crazy about books. However, her personality reflects a stiffer, more mature person (though she is easily offended and wild) that I cannot find.
She is the little girl I was and the woman I have seen in strangers.
Thanks, *insert voice teachers name here*. You'll probably never know you inspired a part of me--it would be too hard to explain to you. You still inspire me.
(August 5, 2018 - 7:13 pm)
Is it self-centeredness if it's focus on an AE? Interesting philosophical dilemma there.
Ahh, me too! :D
What's a Joseph?
Oh, wow. How... what could be the word?... marvelous. I... Okay, first of all, you're a really good writer, and second of all, that's somehow exactly how I feel even though the circumstances are so different.
(August 7, 2018 - 9:24 pm)
I know this thread is getting kinda old, but I would feel horrible if I didn't reply to this :p
Hmmm. Since AE is short for Alter Ego, it would really be a dilemma--even though it's alternate, it's also still you. But not. I'm definitely going to be staying up late debating that with myself...
Joseph is short for Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. It's a contemporary (compared to most musicals--it is old) musical based on the Biblical story of Joseph. The songs can be good, but occasionally border on cringey (specifically Those Canaan Days). The musical is introduced by its narrator, who constantly sings and narrates throughout the show. While it's the reason Thirty is here, she has no real ties to the Joseph narrator.
Thanks so much!--first for the compliment, second for taking the time to reply.
(August 13, 2018 - 7:13 pm)
Alas, such short lifespans these have. What was that line? Something from Twelfth Night--Orsino and Viola were talking about women and beauty and roses, something pretty and sad.
*cackles quietly* Just as planned... :3
Oh, I saw that once! It was not what I expected. ...Let's leave it at that.
You're welcome!
(August 17, 2018 - 11:07 am)
When I first created my AEs, I was fairly new to the Chatterbox. Hailey came first. She's a special case. While Harper and Ace are solely confined to the CB, Hailey's kind of always there for me, and she has been for a while. When I was younger, I used to talk to myself all the time. I gave the voices names and personalities. Then, a few years ago, I did the same thing to the voice I talked to most frequently. She became Hailey, and since then, she's grown and helped me through a lot (here's the part where I realize I sound insane). So, when I leaned what an AE was, she instantly popped into my head. I thought, let's put her down in writing, give her an image and let other people hear her. And, for the most part, it worked. But recently, I've been finding that she hasn't really been growing as an AE. My Hailey has developed and grown into a more mature version of myself, one that I still talk to and go to for help (again, I sound crazy), but AE Hailey has been stuck in the same personality for her entire period of time on the CB. She's never really developed or become anything more than crazy and immature. That's why she may be leaving soon.
Harper came from a character that was created and existed in multiple stories, but never really had a personality. When my friends and I were younger, we used to play make believe all the time. That was what gave me the inspiration for some of my first stories. I would take the characters we made up and put them into my writing. One of the names we chose was Harper Grace. I loved this name, so I took it, put it into a short story, and forgot about it. Years later, I was looking through old stories, and found the short story containing Harper Grace. It was a terrible story, but I still loved Harper Grace, so I moved her into a new story that I was writing at the time, this time as the main character. I was working on this story when I created my AE Harper. I took the character from my stories, and a bit of my shy side, and combined them into one person. Thus, Harper was born.
Ace was never really meant to be anything. I created him to be my fun AE, the one who was always up for an adventure, but didn't really have a personality. His name came from playing cards, because I've always like card games. That was it, really. But he surprised me by being my only AE to ever really grow. He changed to be mature, goofy, and somewhat insecure. He now has a distinct, recognizable voice, which is more than I can say for the other two. I've been working on developing a new AE, who may replace Hailey and/or Harper. Ace, to my surprise, will be the one staying.
That was surprisingly enjoyable. I also liked reading about everyone else's experiences with AEs. Good question, Viola?.
(August 6, 2018 - 10:36 am)
Huh. That's really interesting.
Thank you!
(August 7, 2018 - 9:28 pm)
Ocean Song is like Ace. She came out of nowhere, and has nothing to do with me. She's mainly a warrior with a heart. *Shrugs* She is what I admire.
(August 6, 2018 - 7:57 pm)
Using Alizarine's catagory system I have one chunk and one separate character. Counter's the chunk; he's the painfully shy, awkward side of me. I think this is also why he was difficult to develop, as one 'facet' of a personality can't be a whole character. I had to figure out a way to change him into a fully fledged person because as an embodiment of shyness he simply wasn't interesting. I ended with him as somewhat awkward, but patient, funny, and kindhearted. He's still not entirely developed, but I think it'll be easier once he has some interactions with other AEs. (If anyone wants to be Counter's friend, please do so!)
Eris is an entirely separate character. I drew this girl with a really awesome metal leg and thought that she looked like she had a lot of personality that I wanted to look into. The best characters always kind of spring up fully formed, for me. I get a name or a face or something and the rest quickly follows.
(August 6, 2018 - 8:30 pm)
Sounds like Counter might get along with Sea Glass. We could test it out on the AE chat thread if you like.
The Greek goddess Eris was a goddess of chaos and strife. Is yours similar?
(August 7, 2018 - 9:32 pm)
Nah, that's not where Eris' name came from. It just sounded right to me. I looked it up later and found out it was actually the name of the goddess who started to Trojan war or something, but oh, well. We're just gonna have to deal with that.
Counter would probably love to be Sea Glass' friend. I'll go post on the AE chat.
(August 8, 2018 - 5:56 pm)
My AE, 0ink is the crazy, extroverted side of me that enjoys running around in circles while flapping my arms and screaming, and is comfortable expressing their lack of a specific gender. They are a side of me that only really emerges when I'm super tired or super sugar high. 0ink is the part of my personality which in the real world I only express with my friends.
and unlike most CBers, I only have one AE, because my online persona is more like an AE than what I'm like in real life. Perhaps I should develop another AE who reflects my creative, artistic, optimistic side. We'll see how that goes.
(August 7, 2018 - 8:41 am)
I've felt like I'm a persona on the CB, too. I used to let Nymph handle so much of me that 'me' was emptying of the things that made her, and I feel like I should do that again, because lately I think she might be simplifying. Or maybe she's just changing. It seems a common event, that AEs change in unexpected ways.
(August 7, 2018 - 9:41 pm)
That's really interesting to hear, because 'Alizarine' sometimes feels like a seperate persona. My AEs' personalities combined kind of make up who I am on the other side of the keyboard, so... maybe some alter egos are only alter egos of your online persona. Hmm....
(August 8, 2018 - 6:08 am)
When it started happening to me, I decided that it was okay to have stuff in common with my AEs, and that it was also okay for them to have things in common with each other. I'm currently trying to balance our differences and similarities as best I can, and feeling more like myself again.
(August 17, 2018 - 11:13 am)