New discussion: Vegetaria

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New discussion: Vegetaria

New discussion: Vegetarians

Sorry if this is not allowed I thought it would be a good debate topic. Keep the discussion polite and exclusive. Leave it to the Admins to decide what to do if it gets out of hand. 

submitted by DISCUSSION
(October 21, 2017 - 8:48 pm)

I'm sorry.

I really don't know how it is in Australia, or other countries, but like I said, almost all farmers care for and love their cows(or other animals). Thanks for reading my post.

submitted by Farmer
(October 25, 2017 - 11:03 am)

Whole-heartedly agree with you. I live in a rural area that is full of family dairy farms, and I see every day the hard work that goes into them. Thank you so much for doing this!

submitted by Shoshannah
(October 31, 2017 - 12:42 pm)

Exactly! I don't have a problem with people eating meat, but I do have a problem with the appauling conditions animals are kept in these days. 

submitted by LilyPad
(October 24, 2017 - 12:26 am)

Thank you for clarifying Cecilia. I can see your point of view. However, it isn't that hard to find the right nutrients in veganism. For example, proteins can be found in beans and nuts, and broccoli even has more calcium than milk. I've been vegetarian nearly all my life, and I'm still going strong. Also, there are food companies that make things like hotdogs, hamburgers, corndogs, and chicken nuggets, that are all made with veggies, beans, and soy, and they are really yummy. I'm not opposed to people eating meat, but I think its probably healthier if you avoid it. 

P.S. Currently eating a black bean chipotle burger(vegetarian).

submitted by Jwyn , age 12, aMbER's Hideout
(October 24, 2017 - 12:22 pm)

My family and I are not vegetarians, though we do try to stay away from processed meats, and foods with artificial hormones.

We currently own over two dozen chickens, so we get fresh eggs daily. A few years ago, we raised a couple pigs, then some meat birds (chickens). We don't own a farm, persay, but we have our ways. There is a nearby, trustworthy and reputible butcher shop nearby, and that is where we get most of our fresh meat. 

I think that if you decide not to eat meat, go ahead. Good for you! However, I could not imagine a life without meat as a daily food.

Though don't you think that that vegetatian motto "Animals are my freinds. I don't eat my friends," is coming across as a teensy bit...harsh? I have animals who are my closest friends, who I could not imagine a life without. And yet, that motto is saying baisically that you can't be freinds with animals if you eat them? I do not agree with the way animals are treated in prcoessing houses, and I also agree that somthing should be done about that. So I guess what I'm trying to say is this: What about the people with food allergies? My little sister is currently allergic to wheat, gluten, eggs, everything dairy, and soy. Without meat, she could not have any means of nutrients, besides vegetables, and she hates those. My conflict is not so much as with vegetariens themselves, but that motto on the t-shirt. While trying to get your point across, you have made non-vegetarians feel guilty. That somehow, they are doing wrong, by eating meat.

I am sorry if I offended anyone. I am just tying to voice my opinion. 

submitted by An Omnivore
(October 24, 2017 - 3:51 pm)

I want to be a vegetarian, but I don't have enough willpower to give up bacon... XD

submitted by Nebula, age 1 Million , The Milky Way
(October 24, 2017 - 7:17 pm)

An interesting topic! I don't personally believe in vegetarianism, but I'd like to make it clear that I am perfectly OK with people who do! I understand that plenty of meat animals are mass produced for food. I don't like to see chickens packed into little crates driving night and day half way across the state anymore than anyone else, but there isn't much I personally can or will do about it. I respect those of you who have the drive to try! I guess what I'm trying to say (and doing a bad job of actually saying xD) is that I don't like the way people handle meat. A lot of people do it for money, with out consideration of their animals. I don't support that, and I'm VERY happy to know that there are plenty of people that don't do that. Anyway, this is a totally meandering post. I would rather know that the animals I eat either grew up on my or a friends land or came from the wild and would rather kill my own meat then get in from the grocery store. In my mind, meat is part of life. You can live without it, but I choose not too. 

Thank you for reading this. :D

 

submitted by Silverwaxwing, age 15, USA
(October 25, 2017 - 1:27 pm)

Im very very glad that there are lots of vegetarians out there! Animal abuse is an extremely common problem with farming animals. Unfortunately, I am NEVER EVER becoming vegetarian! XD I am a carnivore through and through. I try to eat local though. My dad hunts for deer which are invasive (so helping the plants!), we raise our own chickens, and tons of people here raise pigs and cows and sell to the stores. We can pretty much always get local meat. 

submitted by Kate-the-Great
(October 25, 2017 - 11:57 pm)

Yes, you're right, it's not the eating of it, it's the treatment of it, and I'm glad you know why people are V's. Farmer, I wasn't talking about family farms that love their cows, I meant factory farms that mistreat their animals. We have many friends who own farms, and I understand that for some people meat and hunting are a part of life. Maybe there isn't anything you can do to stop the mistreatment of animals, but please try to buy free-range things from happy animals or things from ethical family farms. If you want to be vegetarian, but your parents want you to get enough nutrients, do some research. Talk to them about things you can get the right nutrients from. If you don't have enough will power, but you would like to eat less meat, try to cut down on the amount you eat little-by-little, or buy "bacon strips" or other items made by companies like Morning Star that have no meat in them, but taste like the real thing. You don't have to become a vegetarian or buy different thing at all, but if you do, just remember:It may not make much impact, but a little bit goes a long way towards a brighter future.

-Jwyn 

submitted by Jwyn , age 12, aMbER's Hideout
(October 26, 2017 - 2:16 pm)

I know you were talking about factory farms, that is why I reminded all of you that more than 95% of dairy farms in the USA are family owned and operated, that means less than 5% are factory run. Also, organic and free range farms really aren't much different than regular farms. 

submitted by Farmer
(October 27, 2017 - 3:32 pm)

Be a vegetaria if you want. I don't really have a strong opinion about vegetariasm. 

submitted by MJ's FRIEND, age 122q, Californa
(October 28, 2017 - 10:50 am)

I think being vegetarian is a great idea. I personally am not and wouldn't be able to, mostly due to the rest of my family and their picky-ness.

I honestly don't know much about farms and the way they treat their animals.

To add onto what coyotedomino said about Judaism and the way we treat animals: I am not kosher, although I am Jewish. I like the idea of humanely killing animals, but I couldn't do the rest of being kosher :). I believe Halal foods have to meet about the same standard as kosher foods. 

submitted by Kitten
(November 2, 2017 - 11:12 am)

Yup, they are.

submitted by coyotedomino, age 14, the Wood, Omniverse
(November 5, 2017 - 5:47 pm)

I am so glad that there are farmers out there that treat their animals well and humanely, unlike many factories. To all the farmers out there, thank you for at least treating the animals with respect before killing them!

submitted by AutumnArtist(A.A.), age 13
(November 9, 2017 - 10:19 am)

Dear vegitarians,

Although none of you have been openly rude or insulting about the people who don't eat meat, I feel the need to say this. My very good friend is a vegitarian, and though we agree on many other topics, this is not one of them. I am discoraged to say that when I have meat in my lunch, she is not very considerate. She makes exclamations on how unbearable the smell of meat is, and sits a bit farther from me than usual. 

I admire your wholehearted passion about this subject, but please remember that those who eat meat don't mean to irk you by doing so. They resepct your non-meat attitude and you should respect their pro-meat attitude. 

Sensefully yours,

Watchgirl 

submitted by The Watchgirl, Observing
(November 9, 2017 - 8:53 am)