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I think it would be interesting to discuss feminism. Not exactly a debate, just sharing opinions on what you all take it to mean, whether it is neccesary, and whether there is a problem.
Sorry, Admins, if this topic isn't allowed!
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(October 11, 2017 - 1:12 pm)
(October 11, 2017 - 1:12 pm)
Okay! We can keep this a discussion between friends to see everyone's different ideas. I actually watched a movie on feminism in class. I don't believe in feminism. I believe that God created men and women for their special jobs, and girls don't have to act just like boys. He made us DIFFERENT from each other! That doesn't mean that girls are beneath boys, it just means that we have different jobs. Women are mothers and wives. Men are husbands and fathers.
I also don't believe that being a "stay at home mom" should be such a derogatory thing. Sure, there are lots of situations that arise where women do have to take a job to support their family, but we are still the homemaker. We still raise our family. That's not a bad thing, that's a beautiful thing! Just because women now have a wider range of jobs doesn't mean that "staying home baking cookies and watching the kids" is a negative thing, it just means that now women get the best of both worlds!
I also believe that we as girls do NOT have the right to "choose." God chooses. He chose life.
I believe that girls are strong and necessary, but hey, we don't have to protest that we can't do all the things that guys can do. We are of equal importance in God's eyes, but we have different roles to play in life.
(October 11, 2017 - 7:27 pm)
Rose Bud, at least to me, you're a feminist. What you just described is feminism. Real feminism doesn't say men and women are the same, it says there equal. Honestly, saying they're the same is both anti men and anti woman. Like you said, when people say that men and women are the same it hides what makes them different, despite the fact that the differences are beautiful.
I totally agree that being a SAHM isn't bad. I saw some blog post talking about how the writer looked down on young SAHM because they could have done such great things and followed their dreams. My dreams have been to be a SAHM ever since I was tiny.
If I keep talking, I'll just keep repeating what you said. People, if you want to know my stance on feminism, read Rose Bud's post but take out the part about not being a feminist.
(October 12, 2017 - 9:23 am)
Well said, Impunity Jane. I think since this is a discussion thread I'm going to elaborate on the SAHM topic. It seems like, at least where I live, it's kind of shameful to be 'feminine', even for girls. A prime example of that is my guy friends, who will lose interest/roll their eyes whenever we girls want to talk about crush drama, clothes, hair, etc., when we listen to them talk about the zombie apocalypse and video games all the time. "You throw like a girl" is even said to girls, which makes no sense whatsoever. It's even worse for boys who aren't "traditionally masculine". People have different interests and it's not okay for some to be seen as inferior, or not taken seriously.
(October 12, 2017 - 8:30 pm)
What do you mean that women don’t have the right to choose?
(October 12, 2017 - 12:53 pm)
(October 11, 2017 - 7:28 pm)
(October 11, 2017 - 7:28 pm)
(October 11, 2017 - 8:58 pm)
I do not mean to offend anyone with my opinions. I apologize in advance, in case anybody is upset by my beliefs.
I am very much a feminist. Quick note: Feminists DO NOT hate men. They are for equality, not for women completely in charge and men enslaved or anything like that. I think it [feminism] is necessary- did you know that women who work the same job, hours, and put in as much effort as their male co-workers sometimes are paid less?!
I'm agnostic, and I believe that women should be able to "choose."
Again, no offense intended at all.
(October 12, 2017 - 6:01 am)
I think that we were all created equal, but for different jobs, like Rose bud said.
(October 12, 2017 - 9:56 am)
I think this is a great topic to discuss!
I am 100% a feminist. I believe that both genders are completely and totally equal, and no person has the right to demean another because of their gender. I think that boys should be allowed to like pink (because it wasn't until the 1940s that the 'pink is for girls' stereotype came into place) and dolls, and that girls can like blue and baseball. I also believe that boys can enjoy playing sports and doing stuff that is stereotypically 'masculine', and that girls can like wearing dresses and being stereotypically 'girly'. I also think that every person can be a feminist, no matter their profession. Stay-at-home-moms and strong working women can be feminists. Successful men in business and fathers who devote their lives to their children can be feminists. And whatever that person chooses is perfectly okay, and we should not shame them for it.
I consider myself a tomboy. I never wear skirts (except to church), and most of my friends are guys. Yet I still love to play with American Girl Dolls and curl my hair.
And besides, you want to know two amazing people who are feminists? LIN-MANUEL MIRANDA and EMMA WATSON. And I feel that it is perfectly okay to believe that both genders are equal, and should be treated as such. True, neither gender is the same. But every person is different, and I think it's okay for every person to be who they are, and not accept people defining them according to different standards.
It's like that one lyric in Raise You Up/Just Be from Kinky Boots: The Musical says. It tells you to; "Just be/Who you wanna be/Never let 'em tell ya/Who you wanna be. You are who you are, and no one can define who you are for you.
(October 12, 2017 - 11:00 am)
I 100% agree! my best freind is a girl who is very much non-"girly" i myself am male, and pretty much follow the stereotypes except for, A: i do not like sports that much (i HATE football), B: i'm saner than a lot of girls i know, and C: i do not follow the stereotype "boys will be boys".
these are my views, i do not wish to offend anyone.
(October 24, 2017 - 9:47 pm)
Yes, Brooklyn Newsie!! Your point of view is the one I 100% support!!!
(October 25, 2017 - 9:42 am)
By talking about the right to choose, I was skirting around a topic that I'm 95% sure the Admins would not allow.
Also, Impunity Jane, I didn't say that I believe we are equal on Earth. We are of equal importance to God. What I believe is that we are of equal IMPORTANCE, but women are the partner for men. So no, I am not a feminist, and there are many feminist-related ideas that I don't believe in.
(October 12, 2017 - 3:20 pm)
For what it's worth, Pepper Star came right out and talked about that subject.
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that as part of being a woman my job is to get married? But it's okay for men to not get married? I don't know what religon you are, but if it has nuns or something similar, how do your answers to my other questions apply?
(October 12, 2017 - 5:17 pm)
Sorry! The supporting verses from my post were cut. I'm not saying that a woman has to be married, and I don't belong to a religion which tries to fit everything in order like that. I realize that any sort of situation can arise. I'm a Christian. What I was trying to say earlier is that women were created as partners for men. That doesn't mean anything about who gets married or nuns or anything. That just means that we have different jobs. I'm not saying that every situation will be like this, or that any other situation is wrong, however, I believe that the man is the leader of the family, the woman is his partner and the homemaker, and they work together to train their children. That's what I believe. And in situations where there may be a single mom or similar situations, then the Church should minister to that family, because the woman has to be homemaker and leader, and that is a tall order. That's all I'm saying: that there are separate jobs in the family: leader, and homemaker. God designed men and women to work together, not for women to rise up and try to do everything that men are appointed to do.
I understand that many, if not all of you won't agree with this, and I'm not trying to force my views on you. In fact, this ist just mainly helpful for me to figure it all out for myself! I respect each of y'all's opinions, and honestly enjoy hearing them.
<3 God bless
(October 12, 2017 - 7:56 pm)