Legacy. What is

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Legacy. What is

Legacy. What is a Legacy?

It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see.

I want to define what our legacies are. How to achieve a legacy, build one, if you cannot see or control it. Or can you?

People often describe a legacy as "planting seeds in a garden you never get to see". Does that mean you cannot see what your legacy is, or more of what your life holds to reach that legacy?

What is a legacy? Isn't taking your last breath what sums up your legacy? *The girl who lived, grew old, and took her last breathe before resting her head*

Isn't that a legacy?

I am asking these questions to get you to think. To think what makes a legacy a "legacy", what makes it good vs bad, and how we get there if we cannot see or control it.

I believe everything happens for a reason, and that (now I mean to offend no one) God knows what our life and legacy shall be and that this is something we cannot change nor control. Yet who are we to judge whether someone's life was good or bad? Whether they are a legacy worth remembering?

We are humans. In my mind, we cannot lay terms as to what makes it a good legacy if we haven't even lived the rest of our own yet.

Opinions? 

submitted by Ashlee G., age 16, The Future
(May 30, 2017 - 12:47 pm)

In my opinion what makes something good or bad depends on the point of view. It also relates to what you said in your other post about no-one being all left turns. Legacy being good or bad epends on how people view it, and those views can differ. A legacy is what you leave behind, whether it be good, bad, or otherwise. The best way to achive the legacy you want is, in my opinion, to try to live your life as you want to be remembered, however that may be.

submitted by Epic Fangirl
(May 30, 2017 - 10:21 pm)

See, that is how I pretty much feel about it. A legacy is what you choose to make it, I do not think it is something easily defined. Just like we cannot - or at least shouldn't - define beauty, for all living things are beautiful in their own way.

Everyone will have a legacy in their own way.

 

submitted by Ashlee G., age 16, The Future
(May 30, 2017 - 11:01 pm)

Part I  

Hm... you have a deep mind, Ashlee, and I don't mean that in a bad way... what a thought-provoking question! 

- I think that a legacy is what you leave behind, some record of your past deeds. If you write books, then they are there when you have died, and maybe at least one person will remember you. Ex. Shakespeare. Or other forms of art. Even if you aren't extremely famous as you breathe your last breath, chances are, people will still remember you. Your friends. Your family. Perhaps even random people you pass on the street. Who knows if what you do will impact someone in such a way that they remember it for the rest of your lives? Everyone impacts other people in their own way. The Oracle in Mianamon in the second book of the Beyonders series described it as though we are all stones, impacting each other in different ways. Also, in the Lord of the Rings 'The Two Towers' movie, Gandalf says, 'Merry and Pippin are like two stones which start an avalanche.' (And then he says something about the Ents waking up and realizing that they are strong.) 

Or, at least, that's always what I've thought a legacy to be...  

As to the whole 'legacy-being-defined-by-God' thing, well...

Stop reading here if you were offended in any way by the top part of my post. Are you still here? Good.

Part II  

I instinctively want to say, 'that's rubbish, we can all make our own choices. True, if you have foresight, then maybe you will have foreseen what you can do to help us do this' et cetera. But that might just be me, plus, meaning no offense to anyone, I have a feeling that if I say that, a bunch of you (y'all?) are going to descend on me telling me that I am wrong.

However, your very question, Ashlee, invites me to think more fully about my answer. And my answer? 

I believe both--or at least invite both into my head. Perhaps, as you say, God has predetermined all of our lives and we have no choice or say in the matter, or when we make a choice, it has already been foreseen by God... or perhaps we do have true choice. We always have a choice, even if it doesn't look like it. And perhaps our choices are truly our own, not foreseen by anyone. And not forced on us by anyone.

 

I'm going to go and hide from the CB torches and pitchforks now.

-Nianad  

submitted by Nianad
(May 30, 2017 - 10:38 pm)

Wow, you have a brilliant mind on analyzing it, Nianad! Seriously, no torches and pitchforks here.

Okay, so about Part 1, I have to agree that it is something about your life that you left behind. Although say you go on Wiki to some famous person, there almost always will be an "In Popular Culture" or "Legacy". And I feel that society really has a way of digging into our brains, saying that to be loved and cherished after death, we have to do something either stupid or world changing.

It's always been like that.

And why the two extremes for a "society-built" legacy? Well, because both end up being role models to the majority of people. Most celebrities do not so smart things and being that they are building up this little legacy here, many follow. Or if it is a doctor who invented a new cure, they have just established a strong legacy that many people will cheer them on for.

So in short, yes, I agree with Part 1 entirely. Although to society, I feel a legacy is more in the extremes of someone's life. Either making a fool of them when they die or a cherished hero.

Now Part 2.

Okay, I love it when someone brings up a different point of view! Like I said, no torches or pitchforks here. I have a lot of friends who have different religions, or none at all, from LDS, Catholic, Nazarene, Seventh Day, and all these other religions, so I am used to different perspectives. In fact, I love hearing what people think, so no worries!

And again, this is just my perspective, but yes, we can make our own choices. But how I see it is that God foresaw those choices before we even made them. We feel we have freedom to say "I shall eat pizza tonight" yet he already knew prior, whether or not he chose that for you. Maybe you do have the freedom to choose, but I feel God at least knew what you'd choose. Or maybe He picks for you. I couldn't be too certain, I'd have to ask someone more experienced than myself.

So I believe, just personally, that God always knows what we are doing and what we will do before it happens. I also believe he chose our fate for us, how and when we'd die, what we would do to our lives, and so forth. I do feel we can choose, which is why we make mistakes and have to ask for forgiveness. But I still feel God picked it all out for us in the end, carved the road we walked.

Again, that is just my opinion, and I am glad you chose to share yours! I know not everyone believes in God, or shares the same views, and so I fully understand that. Like I said when you have friends with various religions - or even none at all - it really opens your eyes to cherish what everyone has to say.

 

 

submitted by Ashlee G., age 16, The Future
(May 31, 2017 - 9:58 am)

Admin, can you delete the long comment to Nianad that I posted twice, but keep only one? Thanks!

I think I already did.

Admin

submitted by Ashlee G., age 16, The Future
(May 31, 2017 - 10:10 am)

A legacy is a memory. Your legacy will be what people remember about you, be it good or bad. And you won't know what your legacy is because, yes, you will never see it, which is why people are so obsessed with having a concrete legacy that projects a positive self-image. Like writing a book or a play or a song that will be remembered hundreds of years after you're gone. Because we all want people to see the best in us, not the ugly parts or the parts we don't like. 

We all want a legacy because we don't want to be forgotten. We don't like the thought of ourselves being so insignificant. Your legacy is what keeps you alive after you're not. It carries your memories. Practically everything as you grow older will be centered around having a legacy. Being remembered. Because that's truly the goal of mankind, isn't it? To leave a mark, to be something more, to have something that outlives you, something that you'll be remembered by. 

Our legacy is defined by our actions. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, and it's true. Every choice we make, everything we do defines us, no matter how insignificant it may seem, it adds up to the bigger picture.  

submitted by September
(May 30, 2017 - 11:37 pm)

Well spoken, September! I do feel that is what a legacy is, although I do not know how much I agree with it being the human goal. I feel a most important goal is changing people, and walking the path God wants us to walk.

So no offense whatsoever, but that almost makes us selfish? Yet in a way, humans often are which is something we cannot easily change. I feel a lot of people lash out too much to get a decent legacy, in which they ruin the chances of having a real one. I also feel a lot of people will be someone who they are not just to be remembered.

So maybe you are right, maybe most people crave a legacy. For me, I want to make a change on the world. I don't focus on it too much now, there isn't a ton I can do. Right now I do things I won't be remembered for: being here for you guys, my friends, and my family. No one besides maybe those select few will remember me for that.

But in the future, I want to make a bigger change. A world change. That is why I want to travel, do travel photography, telling the stories of others. That is why I want to join Peace Corps and start an orphanage. That is partly why I want to get rid of this "prestigious' state that I live in, where I feel everyone thinks they are better than the person standing next to them. It's sickening.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I see your statement to be true. People are animals down in their core, sick with a temptation to build a legacy that doesn't even matter, a legacy that often doesn't fit who they are. 

submitted by Ashlee G., age 16, The Future
(May 31, 2017 - 10:09 am)

Was that a Panic! reference?

Also, that is truly inspiring. And I have House of Memorys stuck in my head.

submitted by Dumpun, Among Us
(May 31, 2017 - 5:46 pm)

@Dumpun, I believe it's a Hamilton reference

submitted by September
(May 31, 2017 - 9:35 pm)

Could be a Panic! Reference, but I don't know them very well. I meant it to be a Hamilton reference, which I absolutely love!

Did you find Nianad's comment or mine inspiring? Bit confused, but either way, that makes me happy! What is House of Memories if you mind my asking?

submitted by Ashlee G., age 16, The Future
(May 31, 2017 - 10:48 pm)

Was that a Panic! reference?

Also, that is truly inspiring. And I have House of Memorys stuck in my head.

submitted by Dumpun, Among Us
(May 31, 2017 - 5:52 pm)

I sort of agree with the "planting seeds in a garden you never get to see" idea (BTW I got the reference). BUT DOES THIS THREAD MEAN THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT LEAVING? Please, no!

submitted by elementgirl18917
(May 31, 2017 - 6:27 am)

Oh, good! I love sneaking in bits of references here and there. Plus that line often gets me thinking.

But NOOOO I am not leaving!! I can see how you thought that, but I didn't mean for it to come across that way. I still have a good 2-3 years left for the CB before I have to move on. Thank you for being worried about me, elementgirl! 

submitted by Ashlee G., age 16, The Future
(May 31, 2017 - 10:01 am)

Excuse me, but don't you think you have the littlest bit of power over your legacy and life? You make you're own destions, you make your own life, and it's your own fault if anything goes wronge. And what is it with Admins posting more God related things latley? I thought it was against your rules? Posting things related to other relligons or being atheist sure are. 

 

Each comment is considered for posting. Religion may be discussed respectfully. Each person has a right to his/her own beliefs, which may differ from those of others.

Admin

submitted by ....
(May 31, 2017 - 6:12 pm)

I'm sorry if I have offended you, I please do ask you forgive me. I usually avoid bringing up my opinions or religion for this exact reason - I really don't want to upset anyone. Which is why I bring up a warning before any comments/posts discussing religion. That isn't the purpose of this thread, I just used it to tie into what I believed.

So like I told Nianad, we all have our unique beliefs and I cherish that. It is what makes us human, after all. And I do believe we can choose what we want for our lives. We choose to do bad. We choose to do good. What I was saying is I felt this was known prior to us doing it.

We still have a right to choose, of course.

And if Admin wishes I do not post anything religious, then I am cool with that. I mean, I wish to express my feelings and beliefs, but if it offends anyone and Admin disapproves, then I will hold back on that notion. 

submitted by Ashlee G., age 16, The Future
(May 31, 2017 - 10:40 pm)