Places to Chat
Creation Vs. Evolution!
Chatterbox: Down to Earth
Creation Vs. Evolution!
Creation Vs. Evolution! This is the new spot, people! Now as I was saying, why can no one explain the point that there are no intermediate links, at least not that we can find. And even if they are fossilized...how come there are no living ones?
submitted by Phoenix, age 12, The U.S.A.
(September 6, 2008 - 7:15 am)
(September 6, 2008 - 7:15 am)
Not ever creature is fossilized. The missing aren't missing, you just don't know where they are.
(September 7, 2008 - 9:06 pm)
What would prove to you that one animal is an intermediate? There aren't any today, or all of them are, because we don't know where evolution will go. (And you didn't really give me enough time to respond.) Also, Emily L.'s last post truly confused me. Are you saying that inbreeding leads to genius?
The idea of mutations is that they aren't helpful, most of the time. It's actually quite rare when a mutation helps an organism survive. The United States did have an Industrial Revolution. The lichens weren't as obvious, but they were there, and affected by sulfur dioxide. Let's not confuse history here. Any response to Darwin's Finches?
Next order of business, past intermediate links:
Archeopteryx.
Tiktaalik.
Ambulocetus.
The evolution of the horse is also well documented.
(September 6, 2008 - 5:04 pm)
Sheesh, where are all the Christians on this thread?! About the dinosaaurs and what not (you have to believe the Bible for this to make sense): This is my personal theory, at first dinosaurs were just another animal. Then, when Noah took all the animals on the ark, they were there, but when they landed, the climate change was to much for them so some died and some adapted. China? What do you mean...
(September 7, 2008 - 8:25 am)
"the climate change was to much for them so some died and some adapted"
That's evolution!
I think what Wendy meant was that if the Bible is so all-knowing, then why are no other cultures mentioned, besides the Middle East?
(September 7, 2008 - 7:07 pm)
But they didn't adapt. They died.
(September 8, 2008 - 7:29 pm)
I was just saying that a Christian girl is talking about evolution here, in the adaptation part of her theory.
"Then, when Noah took all the animals on the ark, they were there, but
when they landed, the climate change was to much for them so some died
and some adapted."
(September 9, 2008 - 2:16 pm)
Sheesh, where are all the Christians on this thread?! About the dinosaaurs and what not- (you have to believe the Bible for this to make sense) This is my personal theory, at first dinosaurs were just another animal. Then, when noah took all the animals on the ark, they were there, but when they landed, the climate change was to much for them so some died and some adapted. China? What do you mean...
(September 7, 2008 - 8:25 am)
I'm a Christian!! I just haven't been able to use this thread lately, because it was having trouble loading. Now that it's a new one, I can! Your idea about the dinos makes sense.
(September 7, 2008 - 3:23 pm)
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible by the names of "The leviathan" and "The behemoth."
(September 7, 2008 - 4:49 pm)
I'm a Christian. And I believe in evolution.
(September 8, 2008 - 5:26 pm)
There aren't any because we don't know where evolution will go? If evolution exists, then what about has gone? And the archeopteryx. If you saw that, would you say it was a bird, or a reptile? I'd say it's a bird. The only real resemblance it has to reptiles is teeth. Come on. If you wanted to do that, you could say that whales were half human, half fish because they have a pelvis, bones, teeth...etc. And also, in my science, I learned that the geo...um....whatchamicallit chart, you know, the one that shows how we evolved, says that ANIMALS evolved into PLANTS! WHAT?! Animal cells and plant cells are EXTREMELY different! That blew me away. Sorry for my ignorance, but what are Darwin's finches?
(September 7, 2008 - 8:32 am)
I meant that I can't give you a good example of a transitional species today, because we can't see what it will become, only what it has come from. See the bold names for past examples.
Birds don't have teeth. Reptiles don't have feathers. Archeopteryx is in between. And yes, whales are related to humans because they are mammals (they have hair). They have a pelvis because they evolved from bearlike creatures. They're not related to fish (they have no gills).
(Could you explain this also, Why would God give whales a pelvis, if they didn't need it? I've heard that he 'reused' parts, but that sounds unimaginative on God's part.)
I'm not sure what you're talking about with the "geo..." chart, but you're probably talking about the beginnings of life, aerobic versus anaerobic cells. The differences between plants and animals arose when they were all just single celled organisms.
Darwin's finches are a group of finches that noticeably evolve, changing their beaks in order to adapt to different food sources. Read about it on Wikipedia.
Also see the cockroaches/termites in a previous post of mine, Peppered Moths, the evolution of the horse, diseases that become immune/resistant to drugs, and vestigial organs. I also gave you the names of some transitional animals in bold on my last post.
(September 7, 2008 - 7:20 pm)
Everything and everyone has a strange quirk, so I guess for the whale it's the pelvis.
(September 8, 2008 - 3:30 pm)
Here are several other signs, as explained in The Origin of Whales and the Power of Independent Evidence. They are much more than just quirks.
"Vestigial olfactory nerves...
The auditory meatus (the exterior opening of the ear canal) is closed...
All whales have a number of small muscles devoted to nonexistent
external ears, which are apparently a vestige of a time when they were
able to move their ears - a behavior typically used by land animals for
directional hearing."
If God were designing huge "fish," why would he make them mammals? They've got no gills, they're warm blooded, and they give birth to live babies. Not exactly all helpful features in the ocean.
(September 8, 2008 - 6:54 pm)
WOOOOOOAAAHH. Slow down there, people! This isn't religion! This is science! SCIENCE. Pretend there was no religion. And then think about it. You can't just say, "God said so. End of story." Well... maybe WE ARE NOT ALL CHRISTIAN! Put away the Bible for a second and give me REAL PROOF. Please.
(September 14, 2008 - 4:31 pm)