On Sense
Chatterbox: Down to Earth
On Sense
On Sense
A dialogue of two characters discussing the forms of sense
Lately I haven't been making sense.
Oh? Why?
Just this morning, I realized that waffles are awesome because they remind me of tubas. And tubas are awesome.
That makes sense, actually. In a weird kind of way.
How can something be weird and make sense at the same time?
My theory is that there are two kinds of sense-- normal sense and weird sense. Normal sense is making sense with conventional logic, such as "snakes scare some people because of the fear of it being poisonous." Weird sense is valid logic that in unconventional, like the example you just gave.
I don't know if it was that valid, but back to the point. What if there is invalid logic? Or a lack of it?
Then I suppose we get... nonsense.
But if nonsense is either an assumption made with invalid logic, or one made with no logic whatsoever, then there would be two types-- illogical nonsense and pure nonsense.
Illogical and pure. I take it to mean illogical is with invalid logic?
Yeah, like my earlier statement.
About waffles and tubas?
Yep.
Actually, I think that's weird sense. You associate object "a"-- waffles-- with object "b"-- tubas, and tubas with object "c"-- awesomeness. So for you, a = b = c. And through the transitive property of equality, a = c. Waffles = awesomeness.
That does make sense. Weird sense. But only for me.
What do you mean?
I mean, not all people think waffles = tuba, or tuba = awesomeness. And if a =/= b = c, or a = b =/= c, then a =/= c. So waffles =/= awesome, at least not with this logic.
That makes sense. The logic in things would depend on personal experience sometimes.
So... is nonsense really a thing?
Well, yes. Even if true nonsense can't be found in nature, it can be defined as a statement made with invalid or no logic. And I mean any invalid logic.
So if the logic behind a statement is not perfectly valid, it isn't sense?
Yes. But I'll wager that usually, there is someone that the logic is valid for.
So there are four areas of sense-- normal sense, weird sense, illogical nonsense, and pure nonsense.
And they're defined by the quality and quantity of logic-- in normal sense, entirely valid, conventional logic, in weird sense, logic that is valid but unconventional, in illogical nonsense, invalid logic, and pure nonsense, a total absence of it.
What if they're all the same thing, but in a different form? Like four cookies from one batch that have been cut into different shapes.
I see what you mean. The cookies would taste the same. They're the same cookies, just in a different form. So you're implying that sense is like that-- all the same, just in different forms.
Yes.
And for different people, these cookies appear in different forms?
They're... magic... cookies...? ...That makes no sense.
Actually, it makes weird sense. This is unconventional logic, but it's logic nevertheless, and valid. So it's valid, unconventional logic-- weird sense.
Well, sense is complicated.
...I'm not arguing that.
submitted by Somebody , age Who cares, Various places
(October 10, 2015 - 11:26 pm)
(October 10, 2015 - 11:26 pm)
*smashes head against something random*
Venomus, not poisonous.
(October 11, 2015 - 2:41 pm)
I'm literally dizzy. LITERALLY.... Why must you do this?!
*Hides head under desk*
(October 17, 2015 - 10:12 am)
Sometimes what does and does not make sense is nonsensical. By the way, what type of cookie is it? I like white chocolate with macadamia nuts....
Bob says, "Locks are usually metal, therefore, computers are awesome."
That makes sense to Bob, but not to Jane. Sense is all relative and opinionated based upon the personal knowledge and experience of an individual. When Jane says,
"Makalakazooma" Bob thinks that is pure nonsense, but Fred knows it means "Hi, how are you" in the ancient language of the Blagazorkians who live on Mars. Therefore, Fred thinks it makes perfect sense.
When Fred says, "Fit the potato in the locker and a magic surprise will appear on your head," It doesn't make sense to anyone in the world because the potato is fifteen feet in diameter, thus, it is deemed nonsense because they do not have the experience or opnion of the matter that makes it make sense.
Does that make sense???
(October 17, 2015 - 2:27 pm)
Oh boy.
I would say that doesn't make sense, but I don't want to hear your reply to that.
Then again, that kind of makes sense, in a very weird way, which I guess is what you just explained as weird or illogical sense, and now I'm talking in logical sense, but what about common sense? Gosh, I could go on forever, but I've already confused myself too much.
(October 17, 2015 - 6:56 pm)
Yes, we have failed to mention Common Sense, which is the sort of thing that tells you, "Don't carry ten plates at a time!"
Unfortunately, not everybody listens to their common sense...
*CRASH FROM OFFSTAGE*
CRITIC A!!!
(October 18, 2015 - 10:26 am)
'On sense' and 'Nonsense' rhyme.
(October 17, 2015 - 8:26 pm)
Well, actually, nothing makes sense.
(October 17, 2015 - 11:03 pm)