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Chatterbox: Down to Earth
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OK this is the new spot for creation vs. evolution. If someone else started one we will just have to pick.
submitted by Hannah R., age 13, New York
(August 20, 2008 - 11:05 am)
(August 20, 2008 - 11:05 am)
They have ones that are even older!
(August 23, 2008 - 7:01 pm)
Carbon dating is not foolproof. Things, (such as a gargantuan flood) could have messed it up.
(August 24, 2008 - 5:28 pm)
Yes, it's not fool proof. happyly, sciencetist's aren't fools.
And, no, a flood coun't have. layers of the earth? yes. The aboumont of Carbon decay? no.
Do even know how it works?
(August 25, 2008 - 4:31 pm)
Yes, I know how it works. This certain mineral is in all living things, and they are supposed to be able to measure how old a thing is by how much of it is gone. The Question is, how do they know how much of it was there in the first place, and how do they know there hasn't been a past condition, (a flood for instance) causing it to decay faster?
(August 25, 2008 - 7:28 pm)
It's not a mineral. it's radioactive.
(August 26, 2008 - 4:25 pm)
Well, I've found something very interesting. When I was at a museum, I noticed this, from a whale's skeleton. Of course, I googled it to find out more.
Whales have a pelvis. OK, you're asking, "So what?" Well, only animals with hind legs have a pelvis! And whales do not have hind legs. The ancestors of whales had leg muscles attached to the pelvis; modern
whales have other muscles attached to it. This is good evidence for
evolution. Whales are also mammals. So, (please excuse me, I'm only 10) whales must've once been land animals.
(August 22, 2008 - 4:30 pm)
Now how on Earth would a cow evolve a spout? And hooves turn into flippers? For the one similarity there are sure a lot of differences. Whales were created with a pelvis.
(August 23, 2008 - 6:22 pm)
BEARlike creatures. Not cowlike creatures. A whale's flipper's bones are very fingerlike.
(August 24, 2008 - 1:47 pm)
I think they're descended from bearlike animals.
(August 23, 2008 - 7:02 pm)
Reposted from the old thread:
First off, let's wrap up the religion stuff. Just because you're Christian, doesn't mean I am. So let's get the excuses about being Christian outta the way.
And now, look closely at a WHALE'S SKELETON. What do you see? A PELVIS. And do whales have hind legs? NO. Could whales once have had hind legs, hence the pelvis? YES.
When non-biologists talk about biological evolution, they often confuse two different aspects of the definition. On the one hand there is the question of
whether or not modern organisms have evolved from older ancestral organisms or whether modern species are continuing to change over time. On the other hand there are questions about the mechanism of the observed changes... How did evolution occur? Biologists consider the existence of biological evolution to be a fact. It can be demonstrated today, and the historical evidence for its occurrence in the past is overwhelming. However, biologists readily admit that they are less certain of the exact mechanism of evolution; there are several theories of the mechanism of evolution. Stephen J. Gould has put this as well as anyone else:
(August 22, 2008 - 4:47 pm)
(August 24, 2008 - 1:48 pm)
Actually, (to Isa A.) I get most of my Information from several creationist sources. Also, may I make it clear that generally, the Creation model of origins has nothing to do with which religion you beleive in. That is a different question. And TMFA, I actually understood about half of your really long post. Please try to be more clear. Some people say that mammals' skeletal similarity proves Evolution, but rather than suggesting a common ancestor, it rather suggests a common design. It is clear that when the world was created God used the same design over and over for different animals. Which explains the whale's pelvis.
(August 25, 2008 - 1:28 pm)
Emily, you're right. There are a lot of different creationist sources on evolution besides the Bible. Hey, here's some food for thought: who created God?
(August 25, 2008 - 6:09 pm)
I said that, too! Read the post on aliens.
(August 26, 2008 - 1:59 pm)
The idea of God (in Christianity, at least, not sure about other religions) is that there is a higher being who always was and always will be. Thus, God was not created, God just... was.
Not sure if I believe that, really, I kind of waver back and forth. I find it hard to get my head around the idea.
(September 1, 2008 - 12:17 am)
Oh my goodness!! You sure wrote alot, didn't you? Even so, I still don't see much proof...
(August 25, 2008 - 4:44 pm)