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This is very, very important. I'd like to give a little speech about the recent events. Please read through all of it.
Dear CBers, AEs, and CAPTCHAs,
Thank you for even clicking on this thread. Most of my threads are unappreciated. It's an honor to have you here today, and please, this is very important.
There have been some very important...I wouldn't say flaws, but problems, in the CB right now.
First, I'd like to discuss anonymous posters. It's alright to post anonymously for confessions, for ski lodges, and if you know it won't spark any argument. I'm only posting anonymously because I don't feel like revealing myself. But, for example, in the recent thread of Night's, titled 'IMPORTANT!!!', the anonymous posters only made them feel worse. Look at Feline Fantasy's comment. On The Clock Wizard's thread, the Clock Wizard only was trying to help, but instead, got a face full of rude comments. Look at Jubi's comment. Night was the Clock Wizard. Looks like they're on the recieving end of a lot of rude comments. So, why must you target their ideas? Their ideas are, to me, amazing and wonderful. But now, with all these rude comments, they've gone on hiatus. I can relate with them.
Next, I'd like to discuss the complimenting threads. I'm a lesser known CBer, and have never gotten compliments from anyone. Seeing all these 'famous CBers' get compliments and the spotlight only makes me sadder and feel worse about myself. So, my point is, please stop making complimenting thread.
Finally, there comes the problem of AEs. Many people have more famous AEs, and everyone wants them to join. So, the other AEs are left out of everything. My point is, stop making there be famous AEs! Thank you.
Thank you for reading this, and have a great day.
--The Speech Master
submitted by The Speech Master, age Immortal, Who cares
(December 20, 2020 - 12:37 pm)
(December 20, 2020 - 12:37 pm)
You don't want people to post under anonymous names, and yet you have posted under multiple different CB names?? That doesn't really make sense to me.
(December 20, 2020 - 4:41 pm)
I think the speech master means that you shouldn't post anon. when you know people will be angry at it. Sorry if this is rude, but it is a good question.
(December 20, 2020 - 7:12 pm)
Hi, Speech Master. So, for your section on anonymous commentors, I wholeheartedly agree. See my comment on Night's hiatus thread, and Cynthia's on Night's hiatus thread, and Feli's on Night's IMPORTANT!!! thread.
For your compliment thread section, I... well. I know I'm probably one of the "popular" CBers. *feels incredibly guilty* And I know I'm one of the makers of a compliment thread-- *feels more guilty*
*bangs head on keyboard* Ugh, I'm so sorry. I believe we resolved this conflict already, though- I think we stopped having compliment threads and decided that we ought to just compliment people when we felt like they deserved one outside of threads? Or maybe we made a new rule that when you add a compliment you have to compliment someone who HAS NOT already been complimented? I think it was the second one. If so, do you think that would help the feeling of left-out-edness compliment threads bring? Because I find compliment threads to be lovely spreaders of kindness, or I did. I'm hoping there's a way we can revise them so that they are ONLY spreaders of kindness not spreaders of exclusion.
About AEs... well, okay, I'm going to have to disagree on this one. Sometimes AEs break the mold, and I do feel that they do deserve recognition. I have not noticed AEs being left out. My AEs are definitely not famous AEs and they still manage to get into things- it's not like people specifically say "Hey, we want ____ to come to our party!"
For instance, Abcde. I do not know if this is just because I am a relatively new (perhaps I'm more middly, actually) CBer and I have not been here as long, but she was the first narcissistic, self important alter ego with an overblown ego that I saw. She broke the normal and she seems like a real person, Morning put a lot of work into making her come to life, and I think it's fair to give them both the recognition that Abcde is an incredible AE.
I hope none of this came across as rude and I know no one really asked for my opinion, but there it is.
<3
-Luminescence
(December 20, 2020 - 5:16 pm)
Yes! I completely agree! Also, in addition to our posts on Nightfall's hiatus thread, @peppermint also said something I thought was another great way of putting it. @peppermint said that in most cases, anon posters are posting anonymously because they are not proud of what they're writing.
And think about it, if you're not posting something you're proud of, just don't post it. If you are about to post something that may be hurtful, maybe sleep on it. Take a little time to think of how you would feel if someone directed that comment to you. And think of how someone who's sensitive to possibly hurtful things would react to that.
Sometimes even if you think it won't be hurtful, it might be to someone else who's a little more sensitive to things like that.
This (in my opinion) goes for most social media platforms.
And as @Luminescence said in @Nightfall's hiatus thread, there are situations where it's acceptable to post anonymously.
And about compliment threads, I've only been around for half a year, which makes me a new-ish CBer. I don't think I have been mentioned in a compliment thread, though I don't really check them so I don't know, even though I doubt it. In the Confessions thread, I did see someone confess about being left out in them, and then it was resolved there or somewhere else as @Lumi mentioned.
I agree wholeheartedly that we can make them work, by possibly following a couple etiquette guildlines, maybe like:
~Only saying one or two CBers at a time (not a long list that could cause more excluding)
~Saying meaningful things about ALL CBers, (NOT: ___ is cool, etc.) but instead "I really like the way ___ captures life in their pictures/art" or something like that
~And also (like @Luminescence said) someone who hasn't been complimented yet.
Ok, that's all I had to say. Again, I tried to get what I was thinking into words as well as I could.
~Cynthia Maple
(December 20, 2020 - 7:32 pm)
First off I know how it feels to have your threads ignored. I set up the master of matter contest and three people payed attention but all they said was cool or ooh. They didn't actually enter which really really hurt because I was planning on doing a whole Master of Matter ski lodge and stuff. Point is I know how you feel. Second You are right! Who ever @Anonymous and @. need to stop. Y'all need hobbies other than putting people down. If you sincerely believed that you weren't being mean then you should have used your real username. Third while I haven't been on a compliment thread yet probably since I joined the CB a month ago I think that they seem too controversial from what I heard to be continued but I don't have a strong opinion on that. Admins please post this. I'm not being hateful, I'm trying to keep the CB a kind and magical place.
Sincerely - Princess Juniper
(December 20, 2020 - 6:46 pm)
I don't think AEs should be shoved in the corner because of their popularity. If you feel left out, we can help. If you are not complimented, well, don't feel ashamed. It doesn't mean that we don't like you. Just understand that we all love you. I know I feel left out sometimes, we all understand. <3
(December 20, 2020 - 7:00 pm)
*jumps in dramatically* I'm here to give my unwanted and unrelated two cents on this! :D :D Just kidding, I have absolutely no opinions on this because I don't want to offend anyone, and I'm kind of lukewarm on all these topics anyway.
So what am I here for? More issues! Yep, here to complain about something because I like being nitpicky and playing devil's advocate :D :D
Ok, so, I've only ever seen this happen twice, but it'd be pretty nice if you guys could stop playing detective on impersonations :p I got accused of impersonating (and wrote an edgy poem about it that was definitely terrible and cringe and I regret writing any poetry about it at all), and so did Honeybee (I think), and well, both of us didn't impersonate XD so yep, just that one tiny complaint, that's all!
*bows* have a splendiferous day!
(December 20, 2020 - 9:45 pm)
sometimes it's easier to post under an anonymous name when saying something that could be considered controversial. because most of us don't know each other irl, our ideas of each other only exist online. if you unknowingly say something that will hurt somebody else's feelings, then there's a larger chance that their idea of you is going to change for the worse.
i hope that made sense.
(December 21, 2020 - 9:08 am)
Okay, I've been pretty quiet around all this CB drama. But this civil war and bashing of anti and pro Anons going on is unacceptable. I'm horrible at wording things, but here it goes;
@Anti-Anonymous CBers,
I think we should all calm down with dissing the Anons, okay?
They could literally be one of your favorite CBers, long time friends on here, or a new CBer who hasn't thought of a name yet. (Yes, this happens. Freak and Timber Wolf used to post as Anons until they thought of their names.)
You can possibly be hurting them a lot by this thread, and the threads comments.
I believe what they've posted is just honest opinions, just coming out a little blunt.
Remember that this is an public online kids website, and everyone should be allowed to post under whatever appropriate names. This thread isn't going to make them stop anyway, it's just dividing the CB.
@Pro-Anonymoys CBers,
So some of you accidentally hurt a couple feelings of a few CBers. It's okay, all is forgiven (By me, anyway.).
Just... Try to word things a bit nicer, okay?
Also, don't take what the Anti-Anonymous CBers are saying to heart, I don't think they're putting much thought into this.
Remember that most of everyone on here doesn't even have their drivers license, and some of them might act a tad immature.
@Everyone,
We're all CBers, we're all people, and we are entitled to say what's on our mind, even if the wording is questionable.
If you don't want someone to post something you don't like, get off the internet.
This thread seems a bit... toxic. I really don't want arguments on the CB.
I'm sure the Admins wouldn't like this war on the CB anymore either.
Just remember, as a wise man once said; "A house divided cannot stand."
With Best Hopes For A Peaceful CB,
Samantha "Sammy" Everlast
(December 21, 2020 - 4:45 pm)
First of all, thanks, Sammy, that was quite wonderful and peacemaking-y. (sorry, can't think of the adjective right now... *winces*)
Second, I'm going to rephrase my thoughts. I think I came across as anti anonymous posting, but I would like to clarify.
I am NOT anti-anonymous posting. I understand that sometimes it's really hard to say things in the open and I am not going to take away your anonymity. Like Sammy said, it's just that sometimes posts come across as rude.
This is NOT specific to anonymous posting, it happens without anonymity too.
It's just that when you post anonymously something that might NOT be offensive or come across as rude without anonymity suddenly seems harsher, meaner, ruder, and makes the person you are correcting feel worse, if that makes sense.
Please just, when you post anonymously, make sure you're doing it in an APPROPRIATE MANNER at an APPROPRIATE TIME.
For instance, you probably shouldn't be anonymous if giving someone a friendly reminder- in this scenario, anonymity will make your correction/reminder seem less friendly.
It's totally fine to be anonymous if confessing something or saying an opinion you feel that people should know even if you aren't totally comfortable saying it. I understand it's hard to do things you think will make people mad at you or get a bad impression.
It's not okay, though, to just post anonymously because you think you're saying something mean. Like Cynthia said, sleep on it. Think about it before you post it. Is this going to offend someone? If so, maybe try rephrasing it, or if you think it's REALLY mean and also unnessecary, just DON'T. POST. IT.
Make sense? I'm not trying to say all anon posting is bad; I understand why people do it and it's perfectly fine with me.
I guess I'm just saying, read through before you post and make sure you actually feel that it's necessary to be anonymous.
If we all can't stop being hypocritical, this is never going to end.
Thank you.
<3
-Lumi
Or it may be ended by Admin closing the thread to future comments.
Admin
(December 21, 2020 - 6:53 pm)
Well, i might as well just say it, I'm Nightfall. I'm not kidding. Ask me on NaNo and i will tell you outright.
Sorry. Night is angry, and they have a rage mode. They're also very sensitive and have been dealing with a lot.
~Nightfall
(December 21, 2020 - 6:58 pm)
I am sorry, I was a little too frank with my two posts. I really like your point of view and deeply agree with you. This could become a war if we go too far. So I apologize for speaking so bluntly about my opinions and I also hope that the CB will be peaceful.
(December 21, 2020 - 7:28 pm)
Why do I feel like you are Nightfall?
(December 21, 2020 - 7:18 pm)