Political Philosophy

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Political Philosophy

Political Philosophy

This is a debate thread, and be warned.

Political Philosophy is the study of government. What is the best type of government, how should a ruler act, taxes, ect.

And this is the thread that is about that.
Rules:

You may post under a pseudonyn, and no guessing who that is. This is not an SI.

This is a discussion, so be nice. No direct attacks, only ideas.

If you think you can't be nice, leave right now.

No using modern politician's names. This is philosophy. People like Karl Marx, Churchhill, George Washington, and other old politicians and philosophers are fine, but nobody modern, please.

As I said before, if anyone tries to guess me, I will quit.

First topic: What is the best political system.

I am a big fan of Socialism, or very Liberal Capitalism.

I think that if we don't have a Socialist Government, we should have a Capitalist Government with  higher taxes and more benifits for the sick, homeless, impovrished, and disenfranchised.

PS: Feel Free to post as "..." or "Hidden" or "Anonymous" if you feel shy about haveing any sort of clue about your identity here. Also feel free to post under your CB names.

~Aristotle42 out. 

submitted by Aristotle42, age Very Old, Greece
(August 14, 2016 - 11:35 am)

@Aristotle42: Interesting thread. I do love to poke and turn things over in my head, and I am familiar with the different political systems you have mentioned. I'm just not sure I'm knowledgeable enough to speak about them in a way that this thread would seem to require. Besides, I still remember the last political thread. That started off all right enough but descended into chaos midway(?) A lot of people got their feelings hurt before it was over. It was not a pleasant scene at all, not even close to being a discussion. So don't be surprised if there is little appetite for another one.
Perhaps we should discuss something more simple and less likely to inflame CBers, like the pros and cons of pocket lint? Personally, they annoy me. I don't like how they get mixed up with my keys and coins, but I'm willing to consider other people's opinions. (Just kidding. Pocket lint does annoy me a little though.)
:)

submitted by River, age Forever, flowing yonder
(August 15, 2016 - 8:05 am)

I would love it if you would join, but no pressure.

This should stay in the realm of Philosophy. I think everyone should stay civil. 

submitted by Aristotle42
(August 15, 2016 - 9:54 am)

Political Philosophy, while still revolving around politics, seems to me to be less likely to offend people, because most of the things discussed are hypothetical and it has been explicitly stated not to use any "recent" politician's names so as not to start too much conflict over ongoing problems.

submitted by Unfathomable Depths
(August 15, 2016 - 4:19 pm)

Thank you!!!!

Anyway, what is your favorite political system? 

submitted by Aristotle42
(August 15, 2016 - 6:51 pm)

Moving on to a different subject, but no less meaningful, what should the minimum wage be?:

I belive it should be as high as possible, and that would help everyone. $15-20 per hour range.

 

Second question:

How much power should the United Nations (UN) have?:

A lot. There are to many problems in the world for just a few people to fix. It will take national colaboration as well as nations working well together. 

submitted by Aristotle42
(August 15, 2016 - 10:01 am)

Re: the minimum wage, I would invoke Marx himself in saying that there should be none, but rather that a person's wages should be exactly proportional to how hard he works. :D

Not less seriously, the raising of the minimum wage has forced many small businesses to close because they can't afford to pay their employees.  What do you think should be done about such cases?

submitted by Oregano, age 18, The spice rack
(August 15, 2016 - 10:22 am)

If the minimun wage is increased slowly, people will have more money, and the smaller buisnesses gain more because people have more money to spend on goods. 

submitted by Aristotle42
(August 15, 2016 - 1:17 pm)

However quickly you raise the minimum wage, to raise it artificially is just to artificially force inflation.  If the minimum wage is raised from (let's say) 10$ to 12$, employers have to spend more to pay their employees, which they can only afford by charging more for their goods or services.  The rising cost of goods puts those employed at minimum wage no better off than before.  They get 12$ for the same work, but their groceries (for instance) now cost 24$ instead of 20$.

Can this pattern be broken? :)

submitted by Oregano, age 18, The spice rack
(August 15, 2016 - 3:47 pm)

In a small area, a raise of minimum wage is totaly stable. On a nationalwide level is were the problems enter.

submitted by Aristotle42
(August 15, 2016 - 6:07 pm)

Erm... we are trying to solve problems for entire nations, rather than just little pieces of them, aren't we?

submitted by Oregano, age 18, The spice rack
(August 16, 2016 - 8:01 am)

Indeed, Oregano, I have to agree. Yes, some people are suffering due to the current wages, but raising them all too much proves a dangerous risk. There are businesses out there that will suffer dramatically and will be forced to lay off employees or shut down. If they shut down, this affects other citizens in the area who use their products or services. Now if the former was to be, you would have citizens out of work. Either situation is not acceptable and ends up harming people worse than before. Minimum wages need to be kept at a steady level, somewhere near where they are today.

Again posing Oregano's question, what would those smaller companies do besides laying off employees or shutting down? 

submitted by Ashlee G., age 15, The Future
(August 15, 2016 - 1:14 pm)